I have searched all list messages back to the 15th of January for the
word "dumb". There are about 15 messages containing that word and
exactly none of them pertain to you except for the messages you wrote
yourself.
I also searched for the word "overlap" with respect to your lens list.
It occurs twice. One in a message from Piers and the other from Moose.
The message from Piers *comments* to the list that he had offered to
sell you a 500mm Zuiko. Offers to buy and sell gear between list
members is extraordinarily common on this list as you must know by now.
Your response, for no apparent reason that I can see, was to charge
Piers with being bitter for not having bought his lens. I have to tell
you I was flabbergasted by that response coming out of the blue.
In Moose's first response to your lens list he said it seemed a little
"schizo" meaning he didn't understand what he saw as an arbitrary
separation of duties between cameras and lenses. He then went on to
give you a long and detailed response full of excellent advice.
Something he no doubt spent a lot of time working on. And now you
respond with "Moose even went so far as to say that my seperation of
camera purposes was just a little too convenient and that basically I
was being dishonest (read lying)." Again I'm flabbergasted at how you
perceive the efforts of people honestly trying to help you. Do us all a
favor. Please quote exactly what Moose said that can be even remotely
construed as above.
I have been on this list for about 8 years. During that time I can only
remember one other member (no longer here) who caused such a stir and a
flap as you have and that was not in such a short time or for anything
near the same reasons. And the most incredible thing is that people who
are honestly trying to help you out are perceived by you (and only by
you) as attacking you. Really, Allen, It's time to take a long, hard,
honest look in the mirror.
Chuck Norcutt
Allen Coltrin wrote:
> Ali, with as much honesty as I have in my bones, I'm not trying rto be
> offensive. I needed to be heard. The very first positive response I received
> was on the 25th. When I tried to tell what I was looking at I only got
> irritated responses of what are you trying to do and don't you know that
> your 50-200mm will cover that. Each time I said that the 2 camera bodies are
> meant for different things. The e-500 was a digital base and the e-330 was
> legacy lens. I felt I was talking to a wall. Moose even went so far as to
> say that my seperation of camera purposes was just a little too convenient
> and that basically I was being dishonest (read lying). I've had to watch
> what I say each time I spoke because I fot the responses back like the ones
> above.
>
> Ali, I have no need in my life to lie to anyone about anything. I also don't
> need a bunch of drama in my life either. Bill B. has been helping me off
> list to come up with a workable list of lenses in MF and in one line to keep
> it simple. He helped me settle on the Tamron SP line. That is what I was and
> still am going after. I just get so tired of the remarks that I don't need
> this OM lens or that OM lens because it was covered by the digitals I had
> and I was obviously just wasting money and kept telling me I was dumb to do
> this whole thing.
>
> Please tell me you understand at least to some degree.
>
> Allen
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Ali Shah <alizookoman@xxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [OM] Re: PLEASE QUIT!!!!
> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:40:17 -0800 (PST)
>
>
> Alan,
>
> Please calm down. The issue that I see here is that
> Olympus digital has certain limitations. While there
> is a good range of lenses, the better ones are very
> expensive. If you want to get into the 300mm
> (Astrophoto) range without breaking the bank then you
> have to select a Manual Focus lens. Now the folks here
> on the list from what I have read gave you good
> advice. I just think you are running into those
> limitations with what you want to accomplish. There is
> no reason to become offensive.
>
> - Ali
>
>
>
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