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Subject: [OM] Re: Shutter speed requirements [was: 3x21 tele converter]
From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:55:10 -0800
Jan Steinman wrote:
> :::: The record is clear that left to their own devices, the  
> automobile manufacturers lack the wisdom or the will or both to  
> switch decisively to the production of inexpensive, compact, energy- 
> saving cars appropriate to our present needs. -- Donald E. Weeden,  
> 1975 ::::
>   
Some of your tag quotes are getting to long for my short attention span 
for such things. And I've certainly missed several in threads I've not read.

This one interests me, as it assumes an economic and political system 
that has never existed, especially in the US. That is, one in which 
wisdom and the will to use it are in charge*. Certainly there are and 
have been systems where what is marketed as wisdom is imposed on the 
populace, often by force. Un-self interested and non-dogmatic wisdom? 
Nah. (Yes, I did study international economics at Berkeley, but this 
opinion is my own.)

Those few US auto makers of the past (this is an old quote) who tried 
what he advocated either failed or mended their ways.

Those in trouble now due, but only partially,  to excess dependence on 
large, fuel inefficient vehicles ,are in trouble as a result of a 
misreading of the marketplace as it has changed.

The economic system under which those automakers operated and operate 
puts wisdom and will in the hands of the public. Castigating them for 
playing the hand they are dealt is at least disingenuous, if not simply 
an outright lie told for political purposes..

Mr. Weeden, if he were being honest and not practicing demagoguery, 
should have either castigated the wisdom and will of the people or come 
right out and said that he would prefer a form of state socialism. That 
is what is required for government and industry to limit the choices in 
the marketplace to items deemed to be responsible and appropriate, by 
whatever political, environmental, social, religious, etc. standards are 
in place at the time. In fact, don't I recall a quote by il duce on that 
very point, extolling fascism as the perfect combination of government 
and industry, at the end of more than one of your posts?

And no, I am not advocating for or against any particular form of 
economic or political organization, just pointing out when something is 
logically inconsistent or worse, and probably disingenuous.

If you, Jan, want people who don't already agree with you to consider 
your positions, you should vet the stuff you quote to avoid the 
obviously absurd.

Moose - apparently shooting for at least his contrarian, if not 
curmudgeon, merit badge.

* OK, maybe in some long ago benevolent dictatorships. Theoretically 
enough of a possibility to be worthy of discussion, but not here and now.

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