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Subject: [OM] Re: Post processing light distribution [was white balance madness]
From: "Jeff Keller" <jeffreyrkeller@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:19:12 -0800
More info please?

The patio image could be divided into two halves using a straight line
following the roof line down to the shadow on the fence. The shadow
side could be warmed while the bright side could  have the exposure
adjusted down. It appeared you used a more involved selection. What
did you do?

The bedroom appears to have the exposure boosted near the two sides
and bottom. Do you rember how you did the selection / mask ?

"... without lying."    I don't see my job to uncover the truth but to
present the property in a favorable light. I believe the buyers like
to have pleasing photos of the house they buy. Most of the time
written words don't have a major impact on a home sale. In one
instance Juliana had a writer do a superb job on a house she put up
for sale. The writing probably boosted the price of the house by well
over $10,000, perhaps as much as $40,000. The buyer was very informed
however ... she was a real estate agent herself. She had just gone
through an ugly divorce and she was very willing to pay for "good
feelings".

I know my own preference is for images that are cooler than what most
people like, even most of the list members. Your warming of the patio
would be an improvment to 99.9% of all viewers. Hearing other peoples
likes and dislikes is very helpful. I was hoping to go back and
re-take the shot in early morning light. I didn't get a chance as the
seller was still trying to fix up his home for his Sunday open house
and had stuff everywhere. I also agree my image has a hot spot on the
bedroom ceiling that needs to be fixed. Time flees ...

-jeff

On 11/12/06, Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I wasn't really trying to make the image "better", just different - but
> let me start over - forget the group pic.
>
> What I was trying to do is offer another tool for the digital darkroom
> for those who might find it useful. With all the talk about multiple
> lights and techniques to get even lighting, I thought maybe a process I
> sometimes use could prove useful. I guess I chose the wrong image on
> which to illustrate it.
>
> Jeff posted a link to some shots of a dwelling that got me thinking
> about it again. So Jeff, hope you don't mind, here goes nothing again.
> My assumption about these shots is that they are meant to make the
> property look good without lying. :-)
>
> - The bedroom shows quite a bit of hot spotting. A quick run through
> doesn't make the lighting completely even, which would be pretty dull, I
> think. To me, it makes  the room feel much warmer and more inviting by
> lightening up the corners and high-lighting the bed, so it becomes the
> focal point, rather than the bright areas on blank walls
> <http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/Others/Keller/bedroom.htm>.
>
> - Oddly enough, the patio suffers from a similar problem, the part that
> should be inviting is dark and cold looking. Here, because of the
> outdoor setting and wildly different lighting in sun and shade, I broke
> it into two parts, applying the technique to the shade part
> <http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/Others/Keller/patio_b.htm>.
>
> Jon's recent post about the color of his website led me to again(?)
> meander with him and others listees through the countryside to a church
> where he made an image of an unevenly lit part of the interior.
>
> - As with many of my tech examples, the artistically most desirable
> version might lay somewhere between the original and my alternate
> version. So if you don't like it so bright and shiny, try to look past
> that to how much more even the lighting is from left to right and from
> brighter areas to shadows
> <http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/Others/JonMitchell/45122633.26020.htm>.
>
> And I still think this technique applied to the snaps of this library
> and kitchen transform really awful lighting into something much better
> <http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/tech/Process/Lighting/Library2.htm>
> & <http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/tech/Process/Lighting/Kitchen.htm>.
>
> Moose
>

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