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Subject: [OM] Digital B&W vs Film B&W
From: Willie Wonka <alienspecimen@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:32:29 -0700 (PDT)
This is good stuff, got some more secrets in that bag that you want to share 
with us?

You realize that some peops will put this on a notecard and take it to the 
fields to test your theories with their AU Schnozzed lenses...

Boris

 

Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:21:56 -0700 (PDT)

From: AG Schnozz <agschnozz@xxxxxxxxx>

Subject: [OM] Digital B&W vs Film B&W

 

I've been doing quite a bit of experimentation with conversion

of color images to B&W.  Simple you say?  Sure, but with a

twist.

 

A huge advantage of conversion to B&W in post-production is the

ability to experiment with different "filters" to achieve

different effects.  These are just as good as using filters on

the lens when shooting actual B&W film.

 

Really?

 

Uh, no.

 

You can achieve similar effects, but there are notable

differences.  Film has response curves which are different than

digital sensors or color film.  The way film renders blues,

greens and reds is in different ratios than the human eye. These

differences are critical as the film is able to then reproduce

what we "think we saw" instead of pure reality.  Skintones are

better and the tonal sweep is more pleasing.  Most of all, film

has a shoulder and toe that renders details in ways that give

you a long+short tonal range, whereas digital/color is either

tonally long or short.

 

I have seen some outstanding digital B&W photography.  But in

nearly every case there is a specific look to either digital or

converted color images that is slightly disturbing.  I haven't

quite put my finger on it, yet.  But in a nutshell there is a

dynamic present in true B&W that just isn't there in any other

means.  People have successfully done it once in a while, but it

doesn't come naturally.

 

I have discovered a nifty little trick, though, which may help

those of you who wish to convert digital color to B&W.  Adjust

the WB to 6000 (or higher) for daylight pictures.  The lean

towards the red end of the spectrum mimicks the skewed response

curve of most B&W films.  Disable Auto WB select a daylight

setting of cloudy or shade.  Even indoors under artifical light.

 

BTW, one camera that does very respectable B&W in-camera is the

Minolta A1. I'm getting very good results with it and the

look/feel is close to HP5+.

 

I'm not about to give up the OMs quite yet. The Minolta does

better B&W than the E-1 (converted files), but good old Ilford

film (regardless of type) trumps them all.

 

Especially when using filters.

 

AG

 


                
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