Hi Moose,
My preference is for b&w but I shoot colour as 'justification' for having
more than one OM body :-) I shot that scene in b&w and was walking off but
decided to go back for the colour shot and you did, honestly, cross my mind
at the
time.
The natural stone around here, from which most of the older buildings are
constructed, is sandstone so your theory about the cause of the 'ghostly
look' from the red filter is spot on.
http://www.geebeephoto.com/2005/Temp.htm
I can pick out a little more detail in your desaturated version and I
imagine a print would accentuate the improvement that you got. I only use my
images for the web so it has probably made me a bit lazy about maximising
detail but you can be sure that the next bit of masonry I post will have
every last bit of detail wrung from it :-) Thanks for going to such trouble
to make and then illustrate your point, it is well made and taken.
--Graham
From: "Moose" <olymoose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: #078 & #079
> GeeBee wrote:
>
> >Olympus OM2 SP : Zuiko 21mm f2 : red filter : Kodak T400CN
> >
> http://www.geebeephoto.com/2005/05078.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >Same shot different film
> >Olympus OM2 SP : Zuiko 21mm f2 : Agfa Vista 200
> >
> http://www.geebeephoto.com/2005/05079.htm
> snip
> As another matter of taste, I find the flat, ghostly images of some
> buildings, especially some of the wonderful churches, odd and out of
> balance with the rest of the image in some of the shots.
>
> I have suspected for some time that this is a result of using a red
> filter on buildings with significant red tones in the stone or brick.
> This pair of images provides a great example of what I am talking about.
> The bridge is a major part of the (excellent) composition, yet is flat
> and washed out in the B&W shot. In color, it has all kinds of detail and
> texture.
>
> I've taken the liberty of taking the color shot and simply desaturating
> it. No fancy tricks of balancing the channels, which might work better.
> Then I put it next to the red filtered B&W. Like I said, it's a matter
> of taste, but overall I prefer the unfiltered shot. The bridge is much
> more interesting, even though slightly smaller, as is the foreground
> foliage. Sky is about the same. The one thing I like better in the
> filtered shot is the stronger contrast of the branches of the big tree
> against sky and other background
> <http://moosemystic.net/Gallery/ToRedorN.htm>.
> Just my thoughts.
>
> Moose
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