Moose wrote:
>> But nevertheless I don't agree with digital manipulation:
>
> Why just digital manipulation? As others pointed out, retouching,
> manipulation, enhancement, etc. have all been in use for 150
> years or more. And the tools were... the tools of the graphics arts.
To be honest, I'm not keen on any manipulation that isn't executed at
the time of taking the photograph. Even cropping shouldn't (arguably) be
necessary. One of the things I particularly like about photography is
it's honesty. Whilst I can see the point of manipulating images
(particularly if they contain ugly man-made items, such as double yellow
lines in front of a thatched cottage!) I'm not convinced by it.
<snip>
> True, of course, but where is that "certain point"? Use of a shift
lens,
> for example, alters the image the eye views into something the mind
> sees/prefers.
You see, to me that's okay, because it's executed at the time of taking
the photo. It may be a strange way to draw the line, but it works for
me!
> When I see a subject I like, then carefully adjust my viewpoint for
the
> perspective I want, then remove a couple of distracting elements,
which
> is that, photography or graphic design?
To me, it's both.
> If Walt knew the guy was really out and went over to tidy up the scene
> of trash, is that different than removing some after pushing the
button?
Yes.
> What if the whole thing was staged, and that's just Walt's NY drinking
> buddy, who posed for him?
A posed photograph is just fine, so long as you're not lying by
pretending it's reportage.
> How does all this relate to the battlefield photos of the Civil War,
> where various elements, inlcuding bodies of the dead, were moved to
> improve the composition?
Again, if it's for dramatic purpose, it's fine. If it's presented as
"the truth", then it's wrong, and it's a lie.
<snip>
> Artistically libertine,
I try to be artistically libertine (as I am in almost everything!), but
I also like the idea of honesty. I don't alter my photos, and I say as
much. I think it's a pity to have to assume that everyone else's have
been altered.
Regards,
Simon
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