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Subject: [OM] Re: First Arenacross shoot-Holy Smokes!
From: "Dick Lague" <rlague@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:56:09 -0800
I not an arena cross racer, but I have done enough riding to know a few
things.

1. you "drive" a car and you "ride" a motorcycle.  
2. whether the rear wheel is spinning or not isn't important.  The
important thing is that you are back on the gas when you hit the ground.
You don't want the contact with the ground for the rear wheel to happen
when the wheel is stopped.  The engine braking will slam the front end
down.  You want a bit of front end high attitude.  

If you had the back brake on, the whole suspension would bottom out and
your would be in big trouble.

3. stopping the rear wheel will give you some nose down attitude, but
you want to get the front end back up with a bit of throttle.

How do I know......well In addition to being dirt rider and an OM nut, I
have worked in the motorcycle business for 30 years and founded magazine
titles such as DIRT RIDER, MX RACER.

DICK


-----Original Message-----
From: olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mark Marr-Lyon
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 6:45 AM
To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [OM] Re: First Arenacross shoot-Holy Smokes!


The drivers probably do it on purpose in order to get the bike's front 
wheel pointed at the ground while in the air.

<begin physics teacher mode>
While in the air, there are no external torques acting on the 
bike/rider system, so angular momentum is constant.  The three main 
sources of angular momentum will be the two wheels and the rotation of 
the bike and rider.  The rotation of the engine crankshaft and flywheel 
would also contribute, but probably be smaller since they don't have as 
much moment of inertia as the wheels or bike.  By applying the brake to 
one (or both) of the wheels, the angular momentum will be transferred 
to the bike and rider, and the rotation rate of the bike is increased 
and in the same direction as the wheels were spinning.  Conversely, if 
the throttle is opened and the rear wheel is accelerated, the bike will 
start to rotate in the opposite direction.
<end physics teacher mode>

I don't really know why they preferentially stop the back wheel, but I 
could imagine that it has something to do with what would happen if 
they hit the ground with the brake still on.  With the back brake on, 
the back wheel will just skid along until they release the brake, but 
with the front brake on, they'd probably flip over.

Having never actually done this (and never really wanting do), this is 
all just speculation and I'd be interested in hearing what the drivers 
would have to say about it.

Mark

On Feb 24, 2004, at 10:35 PM, Stephen Scharf wrote:
>> Nice Shot! What is curious though is the apparent motion of the front

>> wheel
>> and the lack of motion on the rear.
>>
>> Gord
>
> Yes, I wondered that too, because I have a no. of shots that show
> that effect, the only thing I can think of is that the rear is
> stopped from engine braking, being connected to the engine by the
> chain, whereas the front is free to spin or freewheel.
> -Stephen.


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