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Subject: Re: [OM] You ask now listen
From: "Gordon J. Ross" <gordross@xxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 23:55:31 -0700
Hi Dan:

Ok! Don't take this the wrong way but if you are not bi-polar you are a hard
guy to get to know. Keep in mind my timeline. I do listen and I sponge up
everything.

Good ideas, perhaps we could start with a posting board and expand into
catagories from there. It would be great if you could post a picture and
have a common area for comment from the listers.

Catagorizing the posts would also be a good idea as you could then zero in
on a specific area. Has this been discussed before?

I appreciate your responce and hope that we never engage in rhetoric again.

Gord
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Danrich" <danrich@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 2:25 AM
Subject: [OM] You ask now listen


>
> ************************************************************************
> ****
>
> First of all Andrew, going to the lowest denominator by calling me in so
> many words a crazy party crasher doesn't show much intelligence or
> imagination but I do admit you do for an old fart take some good photo's
> not like some here that could use some lessons (last TOPE was sad).
>
> Now telling me to love it or leave it, doesn't fly because it would be
> better to love it and make it better.
>
> If you look at the last digest you will see some where in agreement to
> the vomitish overload of bullshit lately.
>
> ************************
> Gordon said;
> "My questions for Dan then, would be....
> What is it that you would like to see?
> What OM information would you like to share with us?"
>
> OK you ask, so listen for once.
>
> Gordon: Here's what would vastly help but sadly may never happen.
>
> Break the forum into category and topics that would stop the bullshit
> from plopping to the ground and give each person an avatar to protect
> them from there own social mistakes and prevent death threats from Idaho
> and the likes of keyboard courage.
>
> This would mean modernizing the forum and a way to imbed photos to the
> page instantly.
> Of course this would be a commitment to everyone donating a bit of
> $greenbacks$ and rotation of live monitors to filter or move threads to
> appropriate categories.
>
> Under OM Photo Presentations:
> Nature & Wildlife
> Landscape Photographer City, Still life & Abstract
> People Photography
> Black & White Vision
> Macro World
> Sports Corner
> Wedding Photographer
>
> These categories would bring the BS to a halt because you would be
> having too much fun.
> Assignments and critique
> Weekly Assignments
> Monthly Assignments
> Photo Critique
> Technical and aesthetic critique
>
> OM Gear-talk
> Len's Zuiko, Tamron est.
> Digital corner
> Lighting technique
> Editing & Printing
> Buy and Sell
> AND FINALLY.............. drum roll please.
> Bullshit Forum (there'd be no empty seat here ;)
>
> You may THINK I'm crazy and insensitive but I know what would work.
> This set up is not far off from the modern chat pages out there.
> I've had a camera in my hands since 1959 and loved it ever since.
> XDan
>
> ************************************************************************
> ****
> From: Mike <watershed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Actually Dan has a point. When i connect my BS meter  to the digest it
> has been pegged off the chart lately. Mind you i don't mind a bit of OT
> and participate myself.  But the OM content has been pretty sparse of
> late or perhaps it gets buried in the chafe of the digest.  Does this
> mean we aren't out taking pictures? Or maybe interest in OM is on the
> wane.
>
> Mike
> -------------------
> From: "Jeff Keller" <jrk_om@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> I have to agree even the photo content on the list is sparse ...
>
> I vaguely remember Tamron made the long focal length lenses that could
> be
> broken down into shorter pieces but didn't know that Tokina had also.
> Does
> anybody have great things or even good things to say about them?
>
> - -jeff
>
> ---------------------------------
> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 14:33:56 -0400
> From: "Wayne Culberson" <waynecul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [OM] OM sure right/also kit advice
>
>
> I am in agreement with you Mike. It seems the OT chatter and one line
> quips
> and replies has almost totally dominated the list lately. Maybe it is
> the
> holiday season, or just a passing thing. But I was also wondering if the
> interest in OM things is starting to fade.
>
> Wayne
>
>
> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 15:21:25 -0700
> From: "Gordon J. Ross" <gordross@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [OM] OM sure right
>
> Hi Andrew:
>
> Here-here! Ironic that someone who's only contributions to the list in
> the
> last month have been invective and school boy taunting should suddenly
> be so
> concerned over OM content.
> Honestly there is probably a great need for that person to seek
> counselling,
> when looked at from this perspective- there is no suggestion that  can
> be
> offered that will be understood by him in an adult way. When I first
> joined
> the list it was full of Dan's BS, there were apologists for him and I
> sent a
> similsr suggestion to yours. Guess who's next? It is indeed pitiful, and
> so,
> perhaps compassion is in order.
>
> My questions for Dan then, would be....
> What is it that you would like to see?
> What OM information would you like to share with us?
>
> Gord
>
> From: "andrew fildes"
>  Dan
> This sarcastic posting is designed to irritate and it succeeded, thus
> feeding your sense of aggrieved injustice even further. You are clearly
> unhappy here, but like the drunken gatecrasher at the party, you seem to
> revel in the discomfort caused by your presence. A polite suggestion. If
> the
> list does not suit your needs or personality, perhaps you might be
> happier
> elsewhere?
> AndrewF
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