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Re: [OM] OT red wine and heart disease

Subject: Re: [OM] OT red wine and heart disease
From: "Julian Davies" <julian_davies@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:40:35 -0000
AFAIK the study to prove this was conducted in France and proved that only
claret was good in this respect. This is now the "accepted wisdom" in France
I wonder who funded it....:-)

UK "accepted wisdom" (peddled slightly by doctors)is that a little alcohol
of any type is beneficial simply for the relaxation factor, no mysterious
chemical wonders.

Julian

Who has only anecdotal knowledge in this area, but is amazed by how many
French doctors formally recognise ailments which don't exist but for which
there is an expensive French "cure" - cellulite being the most famous.

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From: "Moose" <olymoose@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 10:31 AM
Subject: [OM] OT red wine and heart disease


> Association has been shown, but not causality. It could be, for example,
> that the physiological and/or personality types who tend to drink
> moderately (yes, the positive association only applies to rather
> moderate dirnking of the magic elixir) and choose red wine are also less
> subject to heart disease. No controlled double blind tests have been
> conducted. Probably will never be practical to do so.
>
> I was in a 10 year study of heart disease treatment (for those who had
> no detectable disease at the beginning of the test) run by Meyer
> Friedman, the cardiologist who coined the term "Type A behavior" He told
> us how pleased he was for a young friend, a female MD, who was going to
> France for one of those studies on red wine, dietary fat, etc. in the
> French diet. He was of the firm opinion that the differences in rates of
> heart disease there vs. the US were primarily attributable to cultural
> and psychological differences and the resulting differences in
> physiological states. So he thought the study was a waste of resources,
> but was happy for his friend who would get to live in France for a
> while. At the time the study I was in started, the behavioral treatment
> he was testing had proven in a previous study to be the most
> statistically successful treatment for prevention of further heart
> attack and  resulting length of survival for those who had already had a
> first heart attack.
>
> Moose
>
> Wayne Harridge wrote:
>
> >Actually I thought somebody had already proven that drinking red wine
> >was beneficial (not sure why now - but who cares).
> >
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