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Re: [OM] Mind Bender (intermediate focal length?)

Subject: Re: [OM] Mind Bender (intermediate focal length?)
From: Roger Wesson <roger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 14:43:19 +0000


Thomas Bryhn wrote:

At 04:33 04.12.02, John A. Lind wrote:

The rest of the effect, a cos^3(theta) falloff is the spreading of light gathered from a solid angle to a flat piece of film. The light gathered by the lens over a solid angle spreads out more (is magnified more) nearer the edge and in the corners than in the center. The farther from the center, the greater the spreading. It is how a rectilinear lens maps flat planes in space to a flat film plane from a position that is effectively a point in space, or at least very nearly a point. This is the effect that making the image circle somewhat larger than the minimum required can mitigate. Make it too large though, and the lens suffers from loss of contrast and risk of flare from the extra light bouncing around inside the light box (region between lens rear element and film plane).


OK, we agree about where the cos^3(theta) term come from. If we stick to the simple lens approximation, how is theta defined and found? It's all defined by focal lenght and the film format, image circle doesn't enter into the equation at all. So for *this approximation* any lens of a given focal length will show the same falloff, because the angles are always the same. For complex lenses I'm sure the lens designer can do all sorts of funny things to circumvent cos^4 - but you argue that a larger image circle will give less falloff. To me this also implies that a smaller image circle would give more falloff. So I make up an example where I reduce the image circle by vignetting, and I have at least managed to convince myself that this doesn't do anything to the rate of falloff.


I think you're both arguing the same thing. John is not saying that a larger image circle has less fall-off - just that the smaller your film format the less of the falloff you record on film. By only recording on film the centre of the image circle you eliminate obtrusive light falloff towards the edge of the recorded image, although of course the light falloff towards the edge of the image circle is the same.

Roger



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