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Most streaming services recommend 25 so we are seeing lots of circles going round and round. Running fiber is well into 5 figures and we have a sketchy cell signal at best for a hotspot. I finally caved (hate to give my pesos to the a**hole) and took the Starlink offer of $30/mo for 100Mbps. The kit arrived and was easy to setup. But there is a problem. We are surrounded by trees and the only marginally good location for the antennae is quite a ways from the house. I can run the 50' cable to a rock outcrop from an out building and get a clear enough view. Beaming the router back towards the house works but isn't strong enough to get to the TV Plan B: I built this outbuilding when we put in the well thinking I would need a water softener (we don't). Now it is a storage shed Anyway when a ditch is open you throw in everything that you can think of, Right? So along with the water lines and power lines I threw in a couple runs of CAT6. I'm thinking that this will pay off. At the house end of the CAT6 I'll splice/coupler on a piece to run up to where the house router is located. Plug this into the WAN port. The house wired network has a direct wire to the TV. And the router (TP Link AX1800, Archer AX21) will provide wifi to the house as well. So far does this make sense? The question I have is how to connect the CAT6 to StarLink. Right now I have the Mini Router connected to the power supply via the proprietary water resistant plug (see photo). I'm thinking to connect the CAT6 to the house to the other port of the Mini Router. does this sound reasonable? Do I have to bridge the mini router? Is that even possible? Can I bypass the SL router and connect the CAT6 directly to the supplied proprietary SL cable via a pass thru coupler. Any help appreciated. 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([2600:1700:5f25:1010:8de4:f68e:de40:bac7]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 46e09a7af769-7dc975b0591sm20134380a34.19.2026.04.24.14.28.27 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Apr 2026 14:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 14:28:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: olympus@thomasclausen.net References: <3e7b45ec-8e6c-4bb3-a1a8-d98eb0bd4ff3@centurylink.net> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <3e7b45ec-8e6c-4bb3-a1a8-d98eb0bd4ff3@centurylink.net> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.39 Subject: Re: [OM] Help with Starlink setup needed X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39 Precedence: list List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: From: Moose via olympus Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion Cc: Moose Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: olympus-bounces+olympusom=mlarchive.de@thomasclausen.net Sender: "olympus" X-Spam-Scanner: rspamc 3.2 X-Spam-Scan-Time: 0.940 X-Spam-Action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.30 / 25.00 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Symbols: HAS_REPLYTO, RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH, XM_UA_NO_VERSION, TO_DN_SOME, R_SPF_ALLOW, FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST, RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD, REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM, ARC_REJECT, DKIM_TRACE, RCPT_COUNT_TWO, DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW, MAILLIST, RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, MIME_TRACE, FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST, ASN, TAGGED_FROM, FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM, R_DKIM_ALLOW, FROM_HAS_DN, MIME_GOOD, HAS_LIST_UNSUB, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, FUZZY_BLOCKED, FREEMAIL_CC, RCVD_COUNT_SEVEN, HFILTER_HOSTNAME_UNKNOWN No help on the Starlink stuff, just an anecdote from the past. I had a work friend who got no TV signal where he lived, down in a canyon. At my suggestion, he mounted a piece of wire (chicken wire, hardware cloth??) on a frame he made up, on the ridge and reflected the signal down to the antenna on his house. Used a walkie-talkie with his wife in the house to set the angle. Worked great. Different Solutions Moose On 4/24/2026 1:57 PM, Mike Lazzari via olympus wrote: > The internet here over the rusty wire is so bad and unreliable, <10Mbps > on a good day, if it works at all. Most streaming services recommend 25 > so we are seeing lots of circles going round and round. Running fiber > is well into 5 figures and we have a sketchy cell signal at best for a > hotspot. I finally caved (hate to give my pesos to the a**hole) and > took the Starlink offer of $30/mo for 100Mbps. The kit arrived and was > easy to setup. But there is a problem. We are surrounded by trees and > the only marginally good location for the antennae is quite a ways from > the house. I can run the 50' cable to a rock outcrop from an out > building and get a clear enough view. Beaming the router back towards > the house works but isn't strong enough to get to the TV > Plan B: > I built this outbuilding when we put in the well thinking I would > need a water softener (we don't). Now it is a storage shed Anyway when > a ditch is open you throw in everything that you can think of, Right? > So along with the water lines and power lines I threw in a couple runs > of CAT6. I'm thinking that this will pay off. At the house end of the > CAT6 I'll splice/coupler on a piece to run up to where the house router > is located. Plug this into the WAN port. The house wired network has a > direct wire to the TV. And the router (TP Link AX1800, Archer AX21) > will provide wifi to the house as well. So far does this make sense? > The question I have is how to connect the CAT6 to StarLink. Right now I > have the Mini Router connected to the power supply via the proprietary > water resistant plug (see photo). I'm thinking to connect the CAT6 to > the house to the other port of the Mini Router. does this sound > reasonable? Do I have to bridge the mini router? Is that even possible? > Can I bypass the SL router and connect the CAT6 directly to the > supplied proprietary SL cable via a pass thru coupler. > Any help appreciated. > Mike > photos: > [1]http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/StarLink/ > > References > > 1.http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/StarLink/ -- What if the Hokey Pokey *IS* what it's all about? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From olympus-bounces+olympusom=mlarchive.de@thomasclausen.net Fri Apr 24 23:37:32 2026 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mlarchive.de-olympusom@mlarchive.de Received: (qmail 44316 invoked by uid 0); 25 Apr 2026 01:37:32 +0200 DKIM-Status: good Received: from unknown (HELO maila1.tigertech.net) (208.80.4.151) by mail.tako.de with ESMTPS (TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 encrypted); 25 Apr 2026 01:37:30 +0200 Received-SPF: pass (mail.tako.de: SPF record at tigertech.net designates 208.80.4.151 as permitted sender) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+olympusom=mlarchive.de@thomasclausen.net Sender: "olympus" X-Spam-Scanner: rspamc 3.2 X-Spam-Scan-Time: 0.722 X-Spam-Action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.31 / 25.00 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Symbols: HAS_REPLYTO, RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH, FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST, RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD, R_SPF_ALLOW, R_DKIM_REJECT, DKIM_MIXED, REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM, ARC_REJECT, TO_DN_ALL, DKIM_TRACE, RCPT_COUNT_TWO, DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW, MAILLIST, DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW_WITH_FAILURES, RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, MIME_TRACE, FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST, ASN, TAGGED_FROM, FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM, R_DKIM_ALLOW, FROM_HAS_DN, MIME_GOOD, HAS_LIST_UNSUB, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, FUZZY_BLOCKED, FREEMAIL_CC, RCVD_COUNT_SEVEN, HFILTER_HOSTNAME_UNKNOWN Hi Mike, I've never physically handled the kit (and there are a few versions), and never configured a starlink setup, but we remote-support about 15 sites with corporate-grade SL services. Listening and talking to the people setting these up to make our stuff work I have picked up a couple of things :) The sites we support have the SL router sitting on the shelf unconnected, and the ethernet cable connected directly to our firewall, however if you need to do any monitoring or support/config, the router will be needed to use the mobile phone app. These have been put in 'bypass mode' so the IP address provided by their DHCP ends up on our firewall. Internet-wise these services end up behind a starlink 'Carrier Grade NAT' gateway and get an unrouteable 100.64.0.0/10 address, which is mapped onto a convenient starlink POP (point of presence) to access the internet. Corp services can be configured to get a true routeable public IP, though that is not static and (in my recent experience) can change often. Another gotcha is that they do not pass SMTP e-mail (tcp port 25) outbound. I hope this is of use, davidt On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 01:57:30PM -0700, Mike Lazzari via olympus wrote: > The internet here over the rusty wire is so bad and unreliable, <10Mbps > on a good day, if it works at all. Most streaming services recommend 25 > so we are seeing lots of circles going round and round. Running fiber > is well into 5 figures and we have a sketchy cell signal at best for a > hotspot. I finally caved (hate to give my pesos to the a**hole) and > took the Starlink offer of $30/mo for 100Mbps. The kit arrived and was > easy to setup. But there is a problem. We are surrounded by trees and > the only marginally good location for the antennae is quite a ways from > the house. I can run the 50' cable to a rock outcrop from an out > building and get a clear enough view. Beaming the router back towards > the house works but isn't strong enough to get to the TV > Plan B: > I built this outbuilding when we put in the well thinking I would > need a water softener (we don't). Now it is a storage shed Anyway when > a ditch is open you throw in everything that you can think of, Right? > So along with the water lines and power lines I threw in a couple runs > of CAT6. I'm thinking that this will pay off. At the house end of the > CAT6 I'll splice/coupler on a piece to run up to where the house router > is located. Plug this into the WAN port. The house wired network has a > direct wire to the TV. And the router (TP Link AX1800, Archer AX21) > will provide wifi to the house as well. So far does this make sense? > The question I have is how to connect the CAT6 to StarLink. Right now I > have the Mini Router connected to the power supply via the proprietary > water resistant plug (see photo). I'm thinking to connect the CAT6 to > the house to the other port of the Mini Router. does this sound > reasonable? Do I have to bridge the mini router? Is that even possible? > Can I bypass the SL router and connect the CAT6 directly to the > supplied proprietary SL cable via a pass thru coupler. > Any help appreciated. > Mike > photos: > [1]http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/StarLink/ > > References > > 1. http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/StarLink/ > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From olympus-bounces+olympusom=mlarchive.de@thomasclausen.net Sat Apr 25 01:11:51 2026 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mlarchive.de-olympusom@mlarchive.de Received: (qmail 27575 invoked by uid 0); 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X-Source-Cap: a25vcnRvbjtrbm9ydG9uO2dhdG9yMzMyMi5ob3N0Z2F0b3IuY29t X-Local-Domain: yes X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfC3D6yCpkKnne+G6RW40WlWX/xsTRJsg0+rQoVasjE/6V83rSW309Z2zRWfMNAhpfmuGFY0vkcpDE+fS8Xl4Ww9o5rSGOFukYr8LaZOAzA0A79C4MY8Y hoftTXLjwABdgn/KsKRfU0FnxprGnMqBye837k8ePXGHFoI9qIqOhUdiOIWi7pyXdCOG65hf+JGcSkBAjJnovj46ga98sXnSwuc= Subject: Re: [OM] Help with Starlink setup needed X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39 Precedence: list List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+olympusom=mlarchive.de@thomasclausen.net Sender: "olympus" X-Spam-Scanner: rspamc 3.2 X-Spam-Scan-Time: 1.278 X-Spam-Action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.38 / 25.00 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Symbols: HAS_REPLYTO, RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH, FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST, RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD, R_SPF_ALLOW, HAS_X_SOURCE, ARC_REJECT, TO_DN_ALL, MAILLIST, HAS_X_ANTIABUSE, RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST, MIME_TRACE, R_DKIM_NA, ASN, TAGGED_FROM, FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM, FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, FROM_HAS_DN, MIME_GOOD, DMARC_NA, HAS_LIST_UNSUB, RCPT_COUNT_ONE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, FUZZY_BLOCKED, RCVD_COUNT_SEVEN, HFILTER_HOSTNAME_UNKNOWN I'm less concerned about supporting the a&&hole because there are thousands of non-a&&holes that work for him that I am supporting. EVERY company has at least one a&&hole that I can make an argument that would violate my purity test. So, regarding the Starlink antenna situation. The important thing to consider is that for those of us in the northern hemisphere, the most important section of sky is to the north. I know that seems counter-intuitive, but the way orbital mechanics work, the satellites sorta arc around the sky from west to north and back down to east. Southern hemisphere is the opposite, with the prime "viewing" to the south. There is a point where this is currently not entirely true, and as I live in Alaska, the suggestion of the northern sky is laughable because most of them are to our south. But it's usually best to tilt it to the north and have better northern exposure. That said, the latest updates over the past couple of months have added predictive loss-of-signal and will switch to another satellite BEFORE the signal is lost due to obstruction. It takes a couple of days before it has sufficiently learned all the obstructions and how to apply the predictive satellite switching. The update from a couple weeks ago has turned mine into a nearly perfect, zero loss, system even though my sky coverage looks like a cat's eye with about 1/3 of the sky unencumbered. Mine is the 50GB per month roaming plan (with the 3rd gen antenna). I got it so I can go explore the wilds of Alaska and stay "connected." Cell coverage gets spotty once you leave civilization. Well, it can be spotty even while you are still in civilization! For those wondering, pretty much every city of substance has a Starlink earth-station. It's pretty interesting to see how the network is setup. As the satellites fly overhead, your signal is effectively bounced from your antenna to the satellite, to the very nearest earth station where it then is routed over fiber-optic network to their nearest data center. So if you are in, say Seattle, you are connecting to the satellites flying over Seattle, and downlinking directly to Seattle and then to the Seattle data center. The latency is very little and the connection remains effectively local. They do have satellite to satellite laser communications which does allow for extending the downlink two or more satellites away and that's used more often for coverage over oceans. As my particular job in telecom happens to deal with this and other non-terrestrial communications systems, I can say, without hesitation, that not only is there no other system that comes close to being as good (on so many levels) as Starlink, but it is constantly evolving and improving. I did get whacked by one major outage, but sheesh, show me ANY terrestrial telecom network that hasn't had a major outage. 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charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: olympus-bounces+olympusom=mlarchive.de@thomasclausen.net Sender: "olympus" X-Spam-Scanner: rspamc 3.2 X-Spam-Scan-Time: 1.522 X-Spam-Action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.30 / 25.00 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Symbols: HAS_REPLYTO, RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH, XM_UA_NO_VERSION, TO_DN_SOME, RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD, R_SPF_ALLOW, REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM, ARC_REJECT, DKIM_TRACE, RCPT_COUNT_TWO, DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW, MAILLIST, RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, MIME_TRACE, FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST, ASN, TAGGED_FROM, FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM, FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST, R_DKIM_ALLOW, FROM_HAS_DN, MIME_GOOD, HAS_LIST_UNSUB, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, FUZZY_BLOCKED, FREEMAIL_CC, RCVD_COUNT_SEVEN, HFILTER_HOSTNAME_UNKNOWN I used to install dish systems back in the pre digital days, mostly picking up Astra & Eutelsat birds, they have a high**orbital attitude over Europe so obstructions were rare, is there a tall tree near enough you could use as a mast? On 25/04/2026 00:26, David Thatcher via olympus wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I've never physically handled the kit (and there are a few versions), > and never configured a starlink setup, but we remote-support about 15 > sites with corporate-grade SL services. Listening and talking to the > people setting these up to make our stuff work I have picked up a couple > of things :) > > The sites we support have the SL router sitting on the shelf > unconnected, and the ethernet cable connected directly to our firewall, > however if you need to do any monitoring or support/config, the router > will be needed to use the mobile phone app. These have been put in > 'bypass mode' so the IP address provided by their DHCP ends up on our > firewall. > > Internet-wise these services end up behind a starlink 'Carrier Grade > NAT' gateway and get an unrouteable 100.64.0.0/10 address, which is > mapped onto a convenient starlink POP (point of presence) to access the > internet. Corp services can be configured to get a true routeable public > IP, though that is not static and (in my recent experience) can change > often. > > Another gotcha is that they do not pass SMTP e-mail (tcp port 25) > outbound. > > I hope this is of use, > > davidt > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 01:57:30PM -0700, Mike Lazzari via olympus wrote: >> The internet here over the rusty wire is so bad and unreliable, <10Mbps >> on a good day, if it works at all. Most streaming services recommend 25 >> so we are seeing lots of circles going round and round. Running fiber >> is well into 5 figures and we have a sketchy cell signal at best for a >> hotspot. I finally caved (hate to give my pesos to the a**hole) and >> took the Starlink offer of $30/mo for 100Mbps. The kit arrived and was >> easy to setup. But there is a problem. We are surrounded by trees and >> the only marginally good location for the antennae is quite a ways from >> the house. I can run the 50' cable to a rock outcrop from an out >> building and get a clear enough view. Beaming the router back towards >> the house works but isn't strong enough to get to the TV >> Plan B: >> I built this outbuilding when we put in the well thinking I would >> need a water softener (we don't). Now it is a storage shed Anyway when >> a ditch is open you throw in everything that you can think of, Right? >> So along with the water lines and power lines I threw in a couple runs >> of CAT6. I'm thinking that this will pay off. At the house end of the >> CAT6 I'll splice/coupler on a piece to run up to where the house router >> is located. Plug this into the WAN port. The house wired network has a >> direct wire to the TV. And the router (TP Link AX1800, Archer AX21) >> will provide wifi to the house as well. So far does this make sense? >> The question I have is how to connect the CAT6 to StarLink. Right now I >> have the Mini Router connected to the power supply via the proprietary >> water resistant plug (see photo). I'm thinking to connect the CAT6 to >> the house to the other port of the Mini Router. does this sound >> reasonable? Do I have to bridge the mini router? Is that even possible? >> Can I bypass the SL router and connect the CAT6 directly to the >> supplied proprietary SL cable via a pass thru coupler. >> Any help appreciated. >> Mike >> photos: >> [1]http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/StarLink/ >> >> References >> >> 1.http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/StarLink/ >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options:http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives:http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition:http://www.tope.nl/ >> -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From olympus-bounces+olympusom=mlarchive.de@thomasclausen.net Sun Apr 26 02:56:52 2026 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mlarchive.de-olympusom@mlarchive.de Received: (qmail 31030 invoked by uid 0); 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