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Re: [OM] How did this happen? [was Bokehlicious [was New entry in Bubble

Subject: Re: [OM] How did this happen? [was Bokehlicious [was New entry in Bubble Stakes]]
From: Wayne Shumaker <om3ti@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2023 16:53:57 -0700
At 4/8/2023 01:28 AM, Moose wrote:

>On 4/4/2023 10:38 AM, Wayne Shumaker wrote:
>>>These lenses were not designed to be bubbly; it's a result of compromises in 
>>>optical design that emphasized other qualities. As a result, the bokeh is 
>>>not easily predictable. Take a look at these two 
>>>For the first, I used the frame around the window pane as frame. Then, I 
>>>decided to take a straight shot, so moved closer, maybe about 18 inches. In 
>>>both cases, the flower is fine, just as though I cropped no. 1. But the 
>>>bokeh is very different.
>>I can't see a great difference other than due to the magnification. If you 
>>crop the other one, wouldn't they be similar?
>Not to my eye. I didn't quite match mag, as the angles aren't identical, so I 
>would have lost the lower bokeh on one. 
>Not to say one is good and the other not. At the original sizes, I like both, 
>with the OoF window frame in the first. At this, almost matched size, I prefer 
>the softer, smoother bokeh, simply because it doesn't pull my eye away from 
>the subject.

I see what you mean.

I'm finding it tricky to always know what will work. Chimping on the camera 
does not always tell the whole story. A lot of my shots have multiple distances 
in the image. I like this rendering but could not tell you that I anticipated 
it when I took the photo:
or this one
Cosina 58mm F1.2

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