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Re: [OM] OT healthcare woes in the US

Subject: Re: [OM] OT healthcare woes in the US
From: Bill Barber via olympus <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 10:17:46 -0400
Cc: Bill Barber <nsurit@xxxxxxx>
Ken, it really would be interesting to know what kind of deductible you had 
with your plan, as what you hear is they are all so high that the healthy 
"insured" essentially has no coverage. Unfortunately, when a snoopy person like 
me tries to find out the real story by going to the website, you can only get 
the numbers by actually giving them all your information and applying for 
coverage. 


I've been covered by Medicare for the last 6+ years and although that works 
with providers who accept Medicare, not all do and some who do only accept a 
certain number of medicare or new medicare patients.  For those who think that 
Medicare offers an inexpensive insurance plan, they may have a surprise 
awaiting them. I am not knocking the program, however like most things run by 
the government, it is not perfect. To be covered for doctors visits, hospital 
and prescription medications and have a supplement to cover some of the gaps, 
you will spent relatively big dollars and only have coverage within the USA. 
There are also relatively high penalties for delaying the purchase of coverage 
beyond the point where one first becomes eligible or for having an retirement 
income which reflects prudent stewardship of your finances during your working 
years.


Unlike Obamacare, anyone can go to the Medicare website and see exactly what 
the coverages and deductibles are for both Medicare and Medicare Supplement 
policies and can compare Part D coverages for prescription medications.


As the folks in Washington struggle to figure out what might be a better 
solution for providing for health care for Americans, I hope they don't use the 
same smoke and mirrors used when selling the Obamacare program.  I'm not too 
comfortable that they won't.


Bill "Ain't no stinking insurance guy anymore" Barber


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Norton <ken@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Olympus Camera Discussion <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, Mar 21, 2017 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: [OM] OT healthcare woes in the US

I would have let this slide by with no comment from me, but this whole
bit of stupidity on Capital Hill has me quite perturbed, as I discover
that I spent $19,000 last year on health care for four healthy
individuals and ZERO contribution from any insurance.

The debate in Washington is highly disingenuous on both sides. The
discussion is about "Access to Health Insurance", when the discussion
should be about "Access to Health Care". When the discussion is about
insurance and not care, you know that every politician in Washington,
regardless of party, is bought and sold by the insurance companies and
the health industry mafia.

And the entire cash-cow of insurance lobbiests revolves around Schumer
and Pelosi, so they are as even as evil as Trump and Ryan in this.

And that $19,000 didn't even include $5000 for hearing aids!

AG (24000 reasons to be ticked) Schnozz
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