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Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Please
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 18:32:59 -0500

I think Moose's main trick was not contrast but to blur the background to simulate a shallow DoF. The sharper dog stands out against the soft background stones

On 12/29/2015 5:15 AM, Peter Klein wrote:
Moose: That's an interesting take on it. It does indeed bring the dog
out. But it also negates a lot of the lighting on the faces, which I
liked.  And all the added blur looks a bit artificial to my eyes.

You and Mike are right that the dog is a little hard to see at first.
Initially, I felt that I liked that--you don't notice him at first, and
then his presence kind of sneaks up on you and it makes the joke
funnier.  Chuck's reaction was what I was hoping for.

I also just noticed that flickr is displaying my photos at 1024 pixels
wide even when I generate them at 1200 pixels. That meant that they
"adjusted" things their own way. Which may have made the dog less
visible.  So I'm putting things on the LUG gallery for the comparison
below.

Here's my little tweak.  I'd already masked the dog and given him higher
"clarity" (local contrast) and a bit extra sharpening.  So I dodged him
about a third of a stop lighter. It does make you notice him sooner. The
thing is, I know what color the dog is (*very* dark grey). So does the
owner (the cellist), and I play on making her a print.  This is about as
far as I'd go:
<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/music/MaraCarlXmas2015/L1101407dodg.jpg.html>

Here's the original on the same site, for comparison:
<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/music/MaraCarlXmas2015/L1101407.jpg.html>


Do you think the "dodged" (lighter) dog is better/enough?

--Peter


 >> On 12/26/2015 3:16 AM, Peter Klein wrote:
 >> Not your usual chamber music photo...
 >>
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/24844563@N04/23352614304/in/dateposted-public/lightbox/>

 >>
 >> Leica Monochrom (CCD), 35/2 Summicron IV, 1/90, f/2.8, ISO 2500. Enjoy!
 >
Moose wrote:
 > A nice subject! But I too didn't notice the dog at first. It really
sinks into
 > the background for my eyes.
 >
 > This alternate is awfully sloppy. I blew the masking on the
clarinetist. Still, illustrates how one may create greater separation of
subjects from background.
<http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/Others/Klein/Please.htm>
 >
 > Apparently Tired Moose

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