Amen :-)
Philippe, struggling with devils too ...
Le 15 juin 15 à 18:07, Bob Whitmire a écrit :
This could turn into an interesting discussion on the merits of
cooking
images, and what kind and how much and overall effect of said
cooking on
the image in question.
Ken's image represents his vision. It does not look like a cliche.
It looks
like his vision, or _a_ vision if we don't know Ken.
On the other hand, as I motorate around Maine, and most recently a
portion
of the United Kingdom, I had occasion to see a lot of photos of the
type I
used to make money doing, i.e. pretty pictures for tourists. They
fell/fall
into three broad categories:
1) Boring/amateur/you really ought to practice more before putting
this
stuff our for sale.
2) Hopelessly cliched, that is, for example, rock in foreground,
smooth
water, bright setting/rising sun in background, separated by
colorful sky.
These used to be called West Coast Landscapes, and they were amazing
when
they first started appearing and now they bring on the yawns. At
least for
me. These kinds of shots make the best postcards. In the rack they
look
like amazing photos, but upon examination and reflection, they have
all the
requisite parts for great photos, but somehow they just don't make the
grade. Maybe there's too much information presented too perfectly.
Photoshop lets you do that, and you can get carried away with it if
you're
not careful. And by "you" I mean me, too. <g>
And then there's 3) The good stuff. Some of the good stuff is
straightforward. Or b&w conversion. And some of it, as was Ken's, is
properly cooked via personal recipe to create something greater than
the
sum of its parts. Very little of it comes from beginners. Almost
none, I'd
say. Most of it comes from seasoned shooters who understand their
equipment
and its limitations, and who also understand their vision for the
shot, and
_its_ limitations. Understanding the limits of vision in a specific
instance is perhaps the first among equals in a good shot. It's
something I
struggle with all the time. I mean really struggle. Jacob wrestling
angels
kind of struggle.
I encourage Ken to keep cooking, and the rest of us to keep wrestling
angels. <g>
--Bob Whitmire
Certified Neanderthal
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Paul Braun <pbraun42@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Ken Norton <ken@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Nice. Love the richness of the colors, even if they were
"helped". And
that
scene just screams Iowa.
Helped? Sure, why not? Didn't we do the same thing "back in the day"
by shooting Velvia and using polarizers?
Thanks, it really does say Iowa. This is on the east edge of town.
If
you look one way, it's houses and businesses. The other way and it's
farm fields.
I'm not calling you out for "helping" - I do the same thing. I
think you
were saying that some had complained about the "cooking". A photo,
unless
it's a strict journalistic document, is a representation of the
vision the
photographer had in his/her mind when the image was captured. I
really like
it.
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