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From: ChrisB <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 11:03:36 +0000
Blimmin’ expensive, Chuck!  Enough to make us wonder if we should be 
refurbishing or rebuilding:-)

It was the structural engineer who mentioned 'plate’.  I took it to mean the 
interface between roof support and the top of the external walls.  The result 
was that the roof beams had splayed by a couple of centimetres.  The problem 
was lack of support because the builder who converted the ancient farm building 
(part of the farm that used to be next to our land) extended the barn by about 
4m, removing the original end wall without replacing the wall’s anchoring 
function with something else.  When we bought the property the surveyor 
recommended that we instal a couple of tie bars to stop further movement of the 
side walls; but when our current builder had removed the plasterboard he found 
that more movement had taken place and we needed to brace the walls more 
effectively.  So they used 4x2 wood to make a frame on the inside of the walls, 
tied to the walls with screws fixed in epoxy into the bricks, installed a 
box-beam (plywood encasing a frame of 4x2) ridge-piece in the roof and a large 
steel girder running up the side walls in the middle to meet at the ridge.  The 
result is a building whose bricks could be dissolved but which would remain 
standing.  The had to replace the roof tiles as well since they previous tiles, 
heavy concrete (ugly) things were apparently too heavy for the structure.  

It looks great, though.  We’re going to spend a couple of nights in there over 
Christmas before we allow the clans to invade after Christmas.

Chris

> On 23 Dec 2014, at 00:31, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Sounds expensive from your description.  But you used a term I'm unfamiliar 
> with... "roof plate".  I couldn't readily find a definition that wasn't 
> biological.  I even checked various forms of post and beam construction but 
> no mention of roof plates.
> 
> Chuck Norcutt
> 
> 
> On 12/22/2014 1:48 PM, ChrisB wrote:
>> There’s nothing on the horizon for me (or my wife).  We have just had our 
>> Annex refurbished, the cost of which tripled when the builder discovered 
>> that the original conversion from a barn had been mishandled and that the 
>> roof plate had shifted – outwards.
>> 
>> So, after much bracing, framing and girding (verb from girder, describing 
>> the massive steel girder bracing the middle of the building) our savings are 
>> seriously depleted and I think that I’ll be working for a couple more years 
>> at least.  More to the the point, there’ll be nothing more in the post for 
>> me for a good few months.
>> 
>> Our smart new Annex is our Christmas present . . .
>> 
>> Chris

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