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Re: [OM] The Adobe tax - Chuck

Subject: Re: [OM] The Adobe tax - Chuck
From: Philippe <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 15:37:09 +0200
Where is it? I'm too young (to be?) on the list :-)

Amities
Philippe


Le 7 juil. 2014 à 14:16, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

> Wrong choice.  I don't do selfies other than the one for this list that I 
> posted many, many years ago.
> 
> Chuck Norcutt
> 
> 
> On 7/7/2014 1:44 AM, Philippe wrote:
>> Bring out last September's selfie
>> 
>>  ;-)
>> 
>> Amities
>> Philippe
>> 
>> Le 5 juil. 2014 à 20:54, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a 
>> écrit :
>> 
>>> No one has ever asked me for a lilac-breasted roller bird image.  In fact I 
>>> don't think anyone has ever asked me for specific images of anything.  :-)
>>> 
>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/5/2014 12:32 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
>>>> You do if you supply stock images and get a request for lilac-breasted
>>>> roller bird in Africa.  I put those four words in my search and it took
>>>> less than two seconds to pull up 4 photos.  Otherwise, I would have had to
>>>> figure out what year I was in Africa and what part of the trip I
>>>> photographed the birds.  Keywords are invaluable to me and I add them as
>>>> soon as I can after or as I import the photos.
>>>> 
>>>> Tina
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Jez Cunningham <jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Some quite sensible advice here (says you don't need keywords!)
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://scottkelby.com/2009/10-things-i-would-tell-new-lightroom-users/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5 July 2014 15:29, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Counter rant, sort of.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The reason you don't understand is that I have no need of nor any desire
>>>>>> to add keywords to the 65,000 images already in my "library" nor any need
>>>>>> or desire to create "collections".  My simplistic system of photo folders
>>>>>> looks like this: (a few random selections)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2010-09-23 - Skaneateles dinner cruise
>>>>>> 2011-01-09 - Robinson Preserve (Bradenton)
>>>>>> 2011-02-15 - Emerson Point (shell mound area)
>>>>>> 2011-05-11 - Northeast Auto Museum
>>>>>> 2011-07-01 - Scotland - Edinburg & Botanical Gardens
>>>>>> 2011-10-13 - Crossing Colorado via Black Canyon of the Gunnison
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can't imagine how long it would take me to add keywords to 65,000
>>>>>> images... 5-600 hours maybe???  I think I'll use the time saved for other
>>>>>> things like taking pictures and drinking beer.  :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm not trying to force the software into my past habits, I'm trying to
>>>>>> keep it from trying to reprogram me (the gearbox) into its view of the
>>>>>> world.  Yeah, why did I buy that car?  I shouldn't have.  I don't need
>>>>> it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7/5/2014 3:40 AM, Philippe wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rant, sort of
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What I don't understand is why some of you are so reluctant to
>>>>>>> allowing the program to do its thing i.e. importing by dates - so
>>>>>>> long as you have typed adequate keywords on upload, you'll always
>>>>>>> retrieve photos in a second. Why try to force the software into your
>>>>>>> past habits? just as if one immediately tried to reprogram the
>>>>>>> gearbox on a new car - does any of you do that? if you do, why did
>>>>>>> you buy that car?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have no stakes in the company but this program does its things
>>>>>>> right for me who hates to know what happens behind the screen; I
>>>>>>> suffered too much under DOS and its followers not to fully appreciate
>>>>>>> the user-friendliness of today's offers.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> End of rant
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Now the tips:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - trust LR to do its thing (sorting, ordering, etc) properly - keep
>>>>>>> the file names short - add keywords as soon as you can - on upload
>>>>>>> (preferred) or later on in batches, then refine as you go while
>>>>>>> editing. FYI you don't need to even tell the program about the gear
>>>>>>> used, it knows about it, except for scans. - create collections after
>>>>>>> upload and edition (batch <=> 5sec.), e.g. "Christmas 1776", "Family
>>>>>>> portraits", "BW", "lens tests", "butter & flies", etc. These can be
>>>>>>> recalled anytime by one click, and edited. - use the time you've now
>>>>>>> saved on technical issues for photography and for sharing a drink
>>>>>>> with friends ;-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I do that for myself, but also for Alice; she can retrieve photos she
>>>>>>> needs for the job even when I'm not in. Life in the easy lane.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Amities Philippe
>>>>>>> 
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