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Subject: Re: [OM] Created Equal
From: "Brian Swale" <bj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 02:46:18 +1200
Chuck wrote

> How about insufficient fat and protein from a vegan diet?  Body builders
> don't get that way on cucumbers and celery.
> 
> Chuck Norcutt
> 
> On 4/25/2013 11:11 AM, Brian Swale wrote:
> > even though I am battling with a not-well-explained loss of 10 kg of
> > muscle

The timing of events shows these are unrelated.

In November 2011 I noticed feelings in my body that were different from any 
I had previously felt. From about that time my weight started dropping.
Previously I had been more or less at a constant 11-1/4 stone (162 lb) from 
the age of +- 20 years old (except when I was super-fit and strong in the late 
1960's due to much skiing, and I added 18 lb muscle). 
I'm due to  be 75 this year.

My GP ( NZ term for General Practitioner  = my med doctor) could come up 
with no reason for my +- 10 kg weight loss. Al the blood tests etc he carried 
out showed me to be OK healthy. 

Several months later he referred me to an (expensive) GP specialist in 
Dunedin, who fairly quickly determined that the cause of my weight-loss was 
stress. I have since discovered that under stress the body preferentially 
consumes muscle.

I won't go into detail on the causes of the stress I am under in this public 
forum - if any one of you wishes to find out more please contact me off-list. 
But it is significant.

I hadn't realised I was (and am) under stress, but he is right. As an 
illustration, he quoted examples from WW2. NZ troops training at home 
thousands of km from the front line, needed ( eg 2,500 maybe) calories to 
maintain body condition. After they were taken to within closer proximity to 
the battle front 20,000 km away, even though their daily routines were 
unchanged, due to the stress of knowing that any day soon they would be 
under fire, they required DOUBLE the food intake to maintain body 
condition, due solely to the stress.

It was between November 2011 and visiting the specialist that I heard Dr 
Esselstyn interviewed on radio, and was impressed enough by what he said 
to follow his diet advice.

So I went vegan between Nov. 2011 and ( maybe) May 2012.

Since then, much more recently, having discovered Dr Joe Prendergast's 
videos etc, and having corresponded with him, I have given up on the vegan 
diet, and now take daily L-argenine supplement. He told me that adding L-
argenine to my diet above what the body produces naturally is sufficient to 
protect from athersclerosis, and if any is present, to remove it.

Only a few months ago I started getting weird pains at night in my triceps 
and scapular muscles. Now these are greatly reduced in bulk and strength 
as well. I'm concerned that even if I start on a body-building programme at 
my age now my body might no longer have the ability to respond 
favourably...

Over the last week+ I've been laid low by a bout of bronchitis or something 
similar which has dropped my weight a fraction still lower.

I really should get into regular daily weight work. I have the gear here.  I 
just 
seem to have more 'won't" power than "will" power :-(

Brian Swale
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