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Re: [OM] [OT] Posting Batteries prohibited by UK Royal Mail

Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Posting Batteries prohibited by UK Royal Mail
From: Nathan Wajsman <photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 18:24:00 +0100
It all sounds sensible, and in fact I have always carried my spare batteries in 
separate little plastic pill pouches (they look like mini-Ziplock bags) to 
protect the terminal.

The only bit that is somewhat unrealistic is the OEM/aftermarket part. I use 
aftermarket batteries in all my cameras (along with the original ones that came 
with the camera). In the case of my Leica M8, I cannot even distinguish between 
the two batteries myself. The idea that security in airports would check 
whether your spares are original or not is ridiculous.

Cheers,
Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
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On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:46 PM, Piers Hemy wrote:

> You can get the detail in the IATA document referenced by Royal Mail,
> http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/cargo/dgr/Documents/Lithium-Battery-Guidance-20
> 13-V1.1.pdf or simply http://tinyurl.com/Lithium-IATA  but in essence:
> 
> Royal Mail
> Individuals can't send Lithium or Lithium-ion batteries by post, whether
> alone, or with equipment. At all. Anywhere. Lithium or Lithium-ion batteries
> inside equipment can only be sent internationally - they are prohibited in
> the domestic mails. NiMh or NiCd batteries are only allowed in the domestic
> mails if new in unopened original packaging. Business postal users have
> fewer restrictions, but still cannot send Lithium or Lithium-ion batteries
> on their own anywhere, they must be contained within equipment.
> 
> Airline passengers
> Some of the restrictions for business users derive from the IATA Dangerous
> Goods Regulations, and those essentially outlaw Lithium or Lithium-ion
> batteries which have not been tested to meet the regulations - no more
> unmarked after-market batteries. Lithium or Lithium-ion batteries in
> passengers' baggage is also covered. Portable electronic devices containing
> batteries when carried by passengers or crew for personal use should be
> carried in carry-on baggage. Spare batteries must be individually protected
> to prevent short circuits and carried in carry-on baggage only. Each lithium
> battery must not exceed a lithium content of 2 g (for lithium metal or
> lithium alloy batteries) or 100Wh (for lithium ion batteries). I think
> Olympus batteries are well within the 100Wh limit.
> 
> Further, there are country-specific restrictions (which presumably has had a
> bearing on Royal Mail's blanket ban).
> 
> Thanks for inspiring the research - inconvenient changes have been made, but
> most likely for sensible reasons.
> 
> Piers
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Gray [mailto:bsg017@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 08 February 2013 17:00
> To: Olympus List
> Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Posting Batteries prohibited by UK Royal Mail
> 
>   If lithium ion batteries are as dangerous as some of the restrictions
>   appear to imply, is there not a risk that somebody will decide that
>   they are not allowed anywhere on an aircraft either in the cabin or the
>   hold?!  This would make life difficult for anyone carrying modern
>   equipment from smartphones through OMD's to laptops but one can see the
>   argument as lithium fires are apparently difficult to extinguish - any
>   of us who have seen potassium or sodium burn can believe that.  I hope
>   they solve the problem of the Dreamliner fires soon and that it is
>   faulty charging equipment or anything other than properly assembled
>   batteries.   But even so, lithium is clearly a potentially bad
>   flammable material to have available to malcontents on aircraft.....???
>   Brian Gray
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