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Re: [OM] Shutter Shock (Return of the absent minded.) [was Question]

Subject: Re: [OM] Shutter Shock (Return of the absent minded.) [was Question]
From: "Walters, Martin" <Martin.Walters@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:37:50 +0000
Chuck:
Thanks. My OM-TTL - compatible flashes are Braun and Sunpak 433D. I'll have to 
look to see what the feet are like. The Braun has a low trigger voltage and I 
can put a generic foot on it but the output is not adjustable. The 433D seems 
to have a trigger voltage below the 24V limit on the OM-D and has the advantage 
that the output can be adjusted. 

Martin 

-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 11:19 AM
To: Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: Re: [OM] Shutter Shock (Return of the absent minded.) [was Question]

If you look at the bottom of a T-32s foot you'll see that there is a plastic 
cam between the two non-triggering contacts.  This cam lifts those contacts off 
the surface of the foot.  Then, if you look at an OM flash shoe designed for 
TTL flash you'll see that it has a recess in the front for the contact lifting 
cam to drop into.  That sets the contacts back down onto the appropriate 
electrical contacts in the shoe.

So, when you place a T-32 into a foreign hot shoe the flash's electrical 
contacts don't actually make contact except for the center trigger contact.

But I have used Sunpak flashes with OM TTL module on my Canon 5D with no 
trouble despite the fact that the Sunpaks don't have the lifting cam.  I had no 
qualms about using the T-32 in the E-M5.  But I'm not sure about the Canon 
540-EZ.

BTW, getting flash sync at 1/320 vs 1/250 was a nice bonus.

Chuck Norcutt


On 1/20/2013 9:50 AM, Martin Walters wrote:
> Paul:
> So, no problems with the T32's mis-matched connectors (OM arrangement 
> vs OM-D's)? I was worried that the OM TTL connectors might short out 
> on the shoe.
>
> Martin
>
> On 19/01/2013 5:14 PM, Paul Braun wrote:
>> Did you notice that it screwed up flash sync?   I ran into that when I tried 
>> a T32 on manual.
>>
>>
>> Paul Braun
>> Certified Music Junkie
>>
>> "It's such a fine line between stupid, and clever." -- David St. 
>> Hubbins
>>
>> "Music washes from the soul the dust of everyday life" - Harlan 
>> Howard
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 15:13, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Setting the shutter shock to 1/8 second was one of the first things 
>>> I did upon setting up the camera.  I'm not sure I've taken a single 
>>> shot without it.  I does make a funny ka-thunk sound but 1/8 second 
>>> is fairly fast and I doubt I'll notice the delay.  Well, maybe in 
>>> the spring if I have to shoot one of the grandkid's soccer games.
>>>
>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/18/2013 2:56 PM, Moose wrote:
>>>> I too have been semi-incommunicado. We left for three days in the 
>>>> Monterey/Carmel area. My response to your first version of the question 
>>>> was the last one I made before turning off the laptop to pack it.
>>>>
>>>> I carefully packed power cords and mouse - and LEFT the computer home!
>>>>
>>>> I kept up, sorta, with the list on my iPhone for a day, but lots of 
>>>> traffic, way too many posts ostensibly about coffee and the way the GMail 
>>>> mobile app works led me to just let it go until I got home.
>>>>
>>>> I still haven't gone through the all the list mail, nor separated 
>>>> the endless drivel about a beverage of no interest to me from the 
>>>> inevitable subject drift.
>>>>
>>>> Skimming subjects, I did notice your repeat of the question, wondered if I 
>>>> had hallucinated answering it, and did so again.
>>>>
>>>> Much as I was surprised by the shutter shock problem of the E-M5, I 
>>>> was even more shocked by those of the Pens and the Pannys. Lots and 
>>>> lots of people have been taking lots and lots of photos with these cameras 
>>>> and quite often declaring themselves quite pleased.
>>>>
>>>> Having been troubled/puzzled by some apparent discrepancies in my 
>>>> E-M5 images, trying to guess where the problem might be, and 
>>>> deciding to pay much more attention to my technique for a while, I 
>>>> was both surprised, then pleased, to discover that the problem wasn't me, 
>>>> or the lenses, but the camera - and that there is a cure, not ideal, 
>>>> perhaps, but built-in, immediately available, at no additional charge.
>>>>
>>>> Then Mike posted the link to these further tests, and I discovered 
>>>> that my E-M5 is likely the least troubled of the Oly µ4/3s cameras, and 
>>>> troubled WAY less than at least one Panny.
>>>>
>>>> My guess is that all the Pens, at least prior to the latest two, 
>>>> all have the shutter mechanism. One way to check on the
>>>> E-PL5 is the instructions. If they have the same 'Anti-Shock' 
>>>> settings in the menus as the E-M5, you can bet that it's still there.
>>>>
>>>> Seems like it's a difficult problem, and the only solution may be 
>>>> complete shutter redesign or an electronic first curtain, ala Canon (at 
>>>> least the 60D, probably others), which might require a new sensor?
>>>>
>>>> I've just done my first large number of shots with widely varying 
>>>> subjects, light, lenses, shutter speeds and ISOs since finding out 
>>>> about shutter shock. I intentionally made no effort to avoid the trouble 
>>>> shutter speeds. So I hope to find out if things have changed for the 
>>>> better.
>>>>
>>>> The shutter sound is definitely different, and there seems to be 
>>>> some subtle sense of shots taking longer. Fortunately, switching 
>>>> Anti-Shock on and off is quick and easy. Perhaps just as important, seeing 
>>>> whether is is on or off is instant.
>>>>
>>>> Asked And Answered Moose
>>>>
>>>> On 1/18/2013 7:05 AM, Bob Benson wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for answering my shutter shock question. I apologize for 
>>>>> duplicating the question;  I've been for a few days at a family 
>>>>> funeral at a remote site in way eastern ohio (that's redundant 
>>>>> actually);  internet access poor, and I wasn't able to tell whether my 
>>>>> original question actually got in.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, thanks, and apologize.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Benson
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