Well said, Sir.
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 3:27 PM, <ClassicVW@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I recall when the Humvee was introduced and trumpeted as the Jeep
> replacement. Think of what the Jeep was, and you wouldn't be as surprised
> as the
> Army brass was when our guys were being killed by plain old gunfire and the
> vehicle was destroyed by mines, RPGs and roadside bombs. Then they decided
> to put a gun on the roof and have the guy that handles that weapon be
> completely out in the open and exposed.
>
> Much later on, after all these losses did they come up with the armored
> Humvee and some other mine resistant armored vehicle with a vee bottom.
>
> In the government's defense, urban warfare is a relatively new concept and
> it takes probably 10-15 years to propose, design, get funded from congress
> and build a new vehicle. So, many got caught off guard by urban warfare
> being the new norm. Heck, it was only 15 years prior to the first Gulf War
> that we were still doing it the old fashioned way in Vietnam, area bombing
> with B-52s. But you'd think that someone in all those think-tanks we
> employ
> could have seen it coming.
>
> Today, if you fight a war like we did in WWII, you'd be prosecuted as a war
> criminal for all the civilian deaths you caused. The flip side to that is,
> if we fought WWII like we fight wars now, we'd still be fighting WWII.
>
> George
>
> On 31 Dec 2012, at 20:37, Chris Crawford <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > The answer is that the Iraq war was largely an urban war, and tracked
> APCs
> > can damage paved roads in cities. Remember, we were supposed to be
> > 'liberating' Iraq, not destroying its cities (though we did a lot of
> > that). I wonder why the Army didn't have an armored version of the
> Humvee
> > or some other APC more suited to urban warfare?
>
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