New money and class .......... infrequently !
Old money and class .......... frequently if not overwhelmingly !
jh
On 21/10/2012 8:18 PM, Bob Whitmire wrote:
> Just goes to show that money and class frequently don't go together.
>
> --Bob
>
>
> On Oct 21, 2012, at 4:45 PM, John Hudson wrote:
>
>> Read here:
>>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/16/biggest-house-in-america-david-siegel_n_1677741.html
>>
>> and in particular the last paragraph !
>>
>> David Siegal's 90,000 square foot home was borne out of a giant Ponzi
>> scheme !
>>
>> jh
>>
>>
>> On 21/10/2012 5:20 PM, Bob Whitmire wrote:
>>> Not so much subsistence as free from the attachment to materialism. There's
>>> a line in Lord of the Rings that struck me the first time I read it. It's
>>> Galadriel talking to Gimli the Dwarf. She says words to the effect that
>>> much gold would pass through his hands, but that it would not hold dominion
>>> over him.
>>>
>>> I don't advocate wasteful lifestyles either, such as the time share
>>> billionaire in Florida who's building the largest house in America while
>>> telling his employees that if President Obama is reelected, he may have to
>>> downsize the company. Who needs the biggest house in America? That's all
>>> ego. In our country he may have every right to spend his money that way,
>>> but I believe he also has a moral responsibility not to. He may be free to
>>> build his house, but if he were truly free, he wouldn't have to.
>>>
>>> My plumber put it another way: Want what you have.
>>>
>>> Fairly smart piece of advice.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 21, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Jan Steinman wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't think they mean the same thing. You can feel unattached to the
>>>> food you eat, but none of us are independent of food.
>>>>
>>>> Did you mean "don't care" or did you mean "don't need?"
>>>>
>>>> Bill Gates may claim to be "unattached" to his material goods. A tribe of
>>>> indigenous natives may well be independent of them.
>>>>
>>>> My interpretation was that you were advocating a subsistence life-style!
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 20, 2012, at 1:32 AM, Jan Steinman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> But this one goes in my quotes database, Bob: "freedom is a state of
>>>>>> being independent of material goods."
>>>>
>>>
>>
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