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Re: [OM] 4-up display, was: Sagelight

Subject: Re: [OM] 4-up display, was: Sagelight
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:29:57 -0500
Jim asks: "Am I missing something?"  Yes, something big.  Side-by-side 
comparison of enlarged images in multiple adjacent windows.  Having a 
bunch of even largish thumbnails and the ability to select and enlarge 
any one of them is not a comparison function.  Consider instead that 
your full screen is divided into quadrants with a very, very similar 
image in each.  The images can be zoomed to any size within their own 
window and the images repositioned within the window for better 
comparison.  Consider four very similar shots of one of your young 
grandkids or great grandkids.  They've been (of course) squirming around 
and aren't always in the same position.  Mom wants to know which of the 
twelve is the best.  With the comparison you can see four of them all at 
the same time and with each one's smiling countenance properly enlarged 
and positioned for the best view.

Now consider that there are twelve such images.  You bring up four at a 
time and ask mom to choose the best of four.  She says (uh, oh) she 
doesn't like any of them.  Ignore her and force a choice.  You mark the 
best and bring up four more.  Mom chooses the best of those four.  You 
do it again and choose the best of those four.  Now you've got three 
marked as good candidates.  Bring up those three and maybe add a fourth 
(maybe one she was hemming and hawing about for a long time before 
choosing something else).  Now you've got four more for comparison. 
Bring them up and choose the best.  If she still says she doesn't like 
any of them you've got a re-shoot on your hands but she'll probably find 
at least one.  If you don't do this part of the process properly and 
efficiently you can end up spending more time picking photos than was 
ever spent in the studio shooting.

Got it now?

Chuck Norcutt


On 1/23/2012 7:05 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
> That seems to indicate that these programs do essentially what I get in
> Elements 6.0.  If I open a folder from a day of shooting, in jpeg list
> format, I can select all or part of the list by holding the shift key, then
> hit open.  The selected images appear in thumbnails at the bottom of the
> screen and as tiled images on the screen.  A double-click on a thumbnail
> brings up that image.  You can compare as few or as many as you like.
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> This is my first step in selecting those images worth a further look.  I
> then open the selected images in RAW and begin work.  It even allows
> multiple images to be loaded into the RAW converter, so that each can be
> evaluated, but not side-by-side.
>
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Norcutt"<chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion"<olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 5:27 PM
> Subject: [OM] 4-up display, was: Sagelight
>
>
>> Here's the description from Adobe help on how to compare images.  The
>> number of steps required gets this method a rating of blah, blah:
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> You can compare two or more images in Bridge before you proceed to work
>> with them in Photoshop or for any other reason. First thing to do is to
>> exchange Preview and Content panels positions by clicking and dragging.
>>
>> Next thing is to enlarge preview area to be able to see more images at
>> once. Navigate mouse to edge of left side panel till cursor turns into
>> double-sided arrow and double-click on two short little lines in middle
>> to hide that panel.
>>
>> To enlarge Content panel and have more images displayed, navigate mouse
>> button to edge of Metadata panel till cursor turns into double-sided
>> arrow, then click and drag.
>>
>> Then click on first image you want to compare, hold down Ctrl key and
>> click on second image.  Now you have two images, side by side or one
>> below another.
>>
>> You can keep adding or excluding images from comparison by holding down
>> Ctrl and clicking on the image. To enlarge preview area, navigate mouse
>> to edge of right side panel till cursor turns into double-sided arrow
>> and double click on two little lines in the middle (or hit Tab) to hide
>> and that panel.
>>
>> To show hidden panels again, navigate mouse to left or right side of
>> screen and double click on two short straight lines.
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Here's how you do it in BreezeBrowser circa 2007:
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> Select up to 4 images.  Press Ctrl-Z.  That's it
>>
>> A new full screen window opens.  If two or three images are selected
>> they may be displayed tiled either horizontally or vertically.  To
>> change the tiling from one orientation to another just press the tab
>> key.  If four images were selected they will be displayed tiled both
>> horizontally and vertically.
>>
>> Turning the mouse scroll wheel will zoom all of the images
>> simultaneously.  Scroll bars allow re-positioning each image within its
>> own window when the window is smaller than the zoomed image.  Individual
>> images may be tagged or rated using the standard application controls.
>>
>> The FastStone implementation is better in some aspects although
>> BreezeBrowser might be different by now.  My version is several years old.
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> Select up to 4 images.  Press "p".   That's it.
>>
>> FastStone allows repositioning by dragging with the mouse.  It can do
>> all images simultaneously within their windows or just one image at a
>> time if the CTRL key is depressed.  It also allows zooming, histogram
>> display and some other functions.  But it does not appear to have the
>> ability to change between a horizontal or vertical orientation at the
>> click of the a key... IMHO, an important omission but still not bad.
>>
>> Chuck Norcutt
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/23/2012 4:35 PM, Moose wrote:
>>> On 1/23/2012 7:00 AM, Candace wrote:
>>>> Chuck,
>>>>
>>>> I can not find anything indicating that Bridge can do this. This is the
>>>> best I can see that it does, which is no where near what I would like.
>>>> http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-bridge-cs4/previewing-and-comparing-images/
>>>
>>> Video, schmideo. I never have learned well from those things. I seem to
>>> be a 'poke it until it does what I want or
>>> breaks' kinda guy.
>>>
>>> Took me about 30 seconds to find the Bridge equivalent. Probable not
>>> quite what you want; perhaps better than the
>>> alternatives you've found so far.
>>> <http://galleries.moosemystic.net/MooseFoto/index.php?gallery=Tech/Misc&image=Bridge_4_compare.jpg>
>>> Select 4 images
>>> CTRL+B (View=>Review Mode)
>>> You get a four up display.
>>> Click the "+" cursor on a spot in one image to get a TV screen 100% view
>>> of that small part.
>>> You can get 100% views on all four images, but I haven't found a way to
>>> link them.
>>> The down arrow on the lower left removes whichever image is selected.
>>> Right click on an image to get the menu of what can be done in this view.
>>> ESC to get out; select different 4, repeat.
>>>
>>>> On 1/23/12 5:24 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm very surprised that Bridge doesn't have that feature.  If it did
>>>>> I'd
>>>>> probably use Bridge rather than BreezeBrowser.  But I guess I should
>>>>> check again if Bridge does do it. ...
>>>
>>> Moose
>>>
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