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Subject: Re: [OM] I really need all your help with a technical issue
From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 12:00:00 -0700
On 8/18/2011 9:50 AM, David Irisarri wrote:
> As you probably know I have come to NY to live

Welcome to the zoo. :-)

> and today I met a guy who is
> creating movies. I showed him my portfolio and he really likes it and we
> have been taking for a couple of hours to know each other. He loves retaking
> pictures of his movies being projected in a huge wall and he also likes
> cropping them. He told me if I can help him with this issue in a couple of
> weeks and I have been carefully thinking about the right procedure for
> maximizing quality. He normally enlarges pictures a lot to be displayed in
> galleries and I was thinking about several possibilities.

I'll just jump in here, instead of posting at the end.

I'm not sure I understand the intended result of projecting the images, then 
photographing them:

1. If the point is highest quality, why project them at all? If video, one may 
simply extract the needed frames from the 
video.

If film, scan the desired frames on a film scanner. I used to be a 
projectionist, long, long ago. No one ever notices if 
you splice out a frame (A topless Claudia Cardinale, for example). If that's 
not possible, use bellows, roll film copier 
attachment and macro lens (80/4 is ideal for 35mm film).

In either case, the result will be truer to the original than anything 
projected and photographed. A lot simpler, too. 
Projecting huge, then photographing, just re-reduces it to the size of the 
sensor. Any such exercise, involving two 
lenses, light source, screen surface and the unavoidable loss of some edge 
definition of the digital capture will reduce 
technical quality of the result.

Although the idea if making a photograph of it huge, so the resulting gallery 
print captures everything possible may be 
attractive in his mind, it will, in fact, make a poorer quality reproduction.

2. If the point is not  the most accurate enlargement, but the artistic result 
of exactly the above factors, what's the 
point of trying to minimize them? He may not have thought this through. It's 
the photographer's job to help the client 
determine what he actually is looking for.

See what sort of effect(s) he likes. Look at what he has done before and talk 
to him about how he might want future 
images to be similar or different. You might find that one or more of the very 
things you are trying to avoid, odd WB, 
softened edges, blown highlights, etc. may be what he values.

If you find that what he want is artistic interpretation of what's on the 
video/film, I'd try some shots with whatever 
cameras are available, including something really cheap, aiming for those 
effects, and see what does or doesn't please 
him, before spending a cent on additional equipment. Probably, the whole thing 
could also be done in PS (or whatever 
editor one likes), working from video or film frames, without ever involving 
photographic equipment. But that might not 
fulfill his vision of how to do it.

3. It's possible that he does not understand the limitations of video/film 
capture, and wants to get more quality and 
detail out of the images than are actually there. I imagine some people don't 
realize that the high quality stills, 
especially close-ups, that come out with commercial films are not taken from 
the film, but taken by a photographer with 
still camera as part of film production.

Motion picture frames are just that, shots at relatively slow frame 
rates/shutter speeds of things in motion. Individual 
frames of subjects in motion usually have more or less blur in them, which is 
not noticeable to those watching the 
movie, but immediately apparent in a still frame of a video or looking at film 
with a loupe.

I can't see any point in thinking about what equipment would get the best 
possible shots of projected images without 
first determining what sort of result is actually desired.

Stop Frame Moose
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