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Re: [OM] What's sharp? [was Images: Stormy Weather]

Subject: Re: [OM] What's sharp? [was Images: Stormy Weather]
From: Joel Wilcox <jfwilcox@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:16:43 -0500
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  On 8/12/2010 4:57 AM, Brian Swale wrote:
>> ...
>>
>> When I see OM images as sharp as these I feel like giving up .....
>
> I think you are misunderstanding, and mis-attributing the source of what you 
> see on the screen.

I agree with this.  The clouds are not particularly sharp (which would
be some sort of contradiction anyway, wouldn't it?).  I think it is
some function of the way the light falls and the contrast that
suggests sharpness.

> Here's an image , the original of which is fairly sharp, with good DOF, but, 
> being from a small sensor compact camera,
> doesn't have the pixel level detail of a DSLR, especially FF. The subject has 
> an incredible amount of fine, subtle
> detail. Yet when seen on the web, none of that will be visible. In fact, I 
> doubt if one could tell the difference at
> this size if I had duplicated the shot on the 5D.
>
> What IS visible is mid level detail, and the way it is processed and 
> presented determines how sharp it looks.
> <http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/tech/Process/Sharp/IMG_0859.htm>

That's a very interesting study.  Thanks for sharing that.

> Or perhaps you are projecting backward from his web images to originals 
> imagined to be razor sharp, too. I'm sure they
> are quite nice, but this is an E-410 with kit lens, so you aren't going to 
> cut yourself on the originals. :-)

Your condescension is breath-taking at times, Moose. 8/

The impression I get also is that the web image is a little sharper
than the original when one looks at the original fullscreen.  I've put
a new version cropped 3:2 out there which has been reworked from the
16-bit TIF output of raw conversion.  In addition to the different
crop, I brought the overall values up a bit more.  To me it appears a
little softer overall.  There is no difference in sharpening
procedures.  The appearance of a halo in the previous version is an
artifact of the way I sometimes use the highlight-shadow tool (and the
fact that haste makes waste), not over-sharpening.

http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/

Joel W.
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