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[OM] Macro light loss-continued

Subject: [OM] Macro light loss-continued
From: usher99@xxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 15:54:42 -0400
Ha,
Had to comment when I saw this description of Big Foot.  Don't get me 
wring it is a  VERY nice lens but this one in Nykon mount
is an extra 1K for being able to violate the no free lunch principle,  
AKA the 1st Law of thermodynamics:  Moose is right about the web being 
an effective way to initiate and maintain fallacies.  (Other 
mistatements there too--perhaps the fastest at that FL that goes 1:1)

http://tinyurl.com/29eahjp

Excerpt:  caps are mine  for emphasis


"Product Details:  The Voigtlander 125mm f 2.5 APO-Lanthar has 11 
elements in 9 groups. With 9 aperture blades, making it round for very 
smooth and pleasant bokeh. The lens has a brightest aperture of 2.5 
making it the fastest macro lens in the world. Not only that, most 
macro lenses when focused to 1:1, some light will be lost due to the 
high magnification. The Voigtlander 125SL is an exception. The lens 
keeps it's brightest aperture at 2.5 EVEN AT1:1. Many might not need 
the 2.5 aperture in macro, but f2.5 helps to keep the viewfinder bright 
at all times, thus easier in manual. If one needed the slowest speed, 
you can stop the lens down to the smallest aperture of f22."

Measured light loss using the technique from JS--evenly lit wall, 
cloudy day---Light  lost from infinity to 1:1 by light meter on OM-2 
about 1.5
stops.    That still seems weird (should be about 2) but less weird 
than zero.


Related old conundrums related to that technique to measure light lost 
from extension or TC.

Viv 90mm S1 matched TC --- 2 stops lost---PERFECT

Used Z. 50/3.5 macro in front of these:.   Tamron SP 7 element 2X TC is 
a bit
over 1 stop.

Tokina  2X TC 4element is a 1/3 stop less .  OK, the slightly less 
light loss is from fewer interfaces but the absolute # stops losts seems
Impossible--double  the FL with same size physical aperture--must be 2 
stops.  arrgh


Perhaps there is something to JS statement that the macro lenses with 
some floating elements with IF loose less light, but still
don't see how.
   One of the list's best physicists has been too busy being productive 
capturing nice images
to ponder such issues.
Now that all is clear, must get back to work.

Mike

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