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Subject: [OM] Re: [OT]Canon Keeps Moving
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:51:20 -0400

Moose wrote:
> AG Schnozz wrote:
>>
>> My issue is with the lack of "pink" in the skin.  It just doesn't
>> exist in these shots.  Granted, they might be Canadians, which would
>> definitely explain the exhaust/closed-garage aspect, but still, they
>> don't look they have freezer burn.
>>   
> I again reveal my ignorance:
> 
> I know that there is no way that a camera can get white balance right 
> without some information or assumptions, which can take four forms.
> ...
> 4. Some manufacturers have introduced "intelligent" Auto WB, where the 
> camera compares color (and other?) characteristics of a subject with 
> stored samples to deduce what kind of scene it is, and set the WB 
> accordingly.
> 
> This is a P&S feature, not for pro DSLRs. However, I think the Auto WB 
> results of Canyon cameras are a simple form of this. DPreview has been 
> dumping on them for years about their poor Auto WB performance in 
> incandescent light. Given their general competance at other aspects of 
> image quality, I ask myself hwether this characteristic might be 
> intentional, to give the look of warmth most people expect and find 
> natural in such shots.

--- Amen ---
> 
> Now I know the SmartShooter skin tone test is flawed, in several ways in 
> addition to leaving out your beloved E-1. However, lots and lots of pros 
> who make (or try to make) a living taking just those kinds of pictures 
> and selling them to the subjects and their loved ones looked at lots and 
> lots of prints taken under limited, but controlled conditions. Voting 
> blind, they choose the 5D as the camera producing the best skin tones in 
> JPEG shooting at default settings.
> 
> So I propose that C did just what I would have done, as outlined above, 
> set default WB for the most WB sensitive application. I suspect that the 
> vast majority of people looking at the sports shot in SI don't notice 
> skin tones unless they are so far off that they start to make 
> determining race difficult. So how stupid would they have to be to tune 
> Auto WB for such situations? Having got that right on the 5D, why on 
> earth would they do anything but use the same set-up on the 1DIII?

--- Amen ---

Chuck Norcutt

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