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Subject: [OM] Scientific "theories" proposed as facts (OT- probably controversial)
From: r.burnette@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:38:42 -0500
Johann Thorssen wrote:

<Part of the problem is that scientists speculate, that is
what they are trained to do.  They hypothesize based on all kinds of data
and scenarios, but they don't (or should not) claim to know the truth.>

<There is a reason why nothing can be more than 99.9% certain, and why things
are supposed to be "true" when the probability is 95%.  So "truth" in
science is not the same as other people understand it to be.   And all
scientific debates must be viewed with the fact in mind that the whole
purpose of all scientific work is to disprove something, you try to disprove
your own work or someone's else's work, but if you fail you claim that you
can't disprove it, but not that something is true.  I don't think people
generally understand this.>

That applies the so-called "factual certainties" of the Theory of Evolution as 
well. This theory falls way short of the 95% probability test. For those who 
might be interested, here is a link to a series of lectures by a Christian 
proponent of a Creationist view. Regardless of your adopted position on this 
issue, this is a well-reasoned challenge to the conclusions of scientists who 
embrace the Theory of Evolution and dismiss any alternative view of creation as 
"off the wall" (especially so when any element of faith/religion might be 
involved). You might not agree with his conclusions, but he is definitely 
thouht-provoking. He does an excellent job of exposing glaring inconsistencies 
between certain scientific laws (i.e. Laws of Thermodynamics) and many 
"speculative conclusions" regarding evolution presently taught as scientific 
"facts." His treatment of the Big Bang Theory is well worth the time it takes 
to listen. 

http://freehovind.com/watch-id-4308235066145651150

FYI:  this is offered with no intention of starting a rabid clash of personal 
views or a flame war on this subject on the list. This is merely offered as a 
service to anyone who might have questions regarding this issue and who doesn't 
mind being intellectually challenged by additional information and/or opposing 
viewpoints. 

If you want to respond off-list, be my guest...but don't get nasty. I share a 
lot of similar interests with and occasionally some of the curmudgeon 
characteristics of Walt, et al.  ;o)

Robert
(A 74 year old with rare, but occasional curmudgeon responses, like an old dog 
who doesn't want to be messed with at times.)



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