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From: Listar [mailto:listar@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 6:36 PM
To: olympus digest users
Subject: olympus Digest V1 #16
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olympus Digest Sun, 25 Jan 2004 Volume: 01 Issue: 016
In This Issue:
[OM] Re: Deep Regrets... OM System for sale!
[OM] Re: On topic - Book recommendation,
[OM] Re: Great Small Oly Film Cameras
[OM] Re: Old and in the way
[OM] Re: regrets: Zuiko 200/4
[OM] Re: On topic - Book recommendation, goals and other
ram
[OM] Re: A question about film preference
[OM] Re: Another mod to digest mode?
[OM] Re: On topic - Book recommendation,
[OM] Re: CameraQuest's OM to EOS adapter + more on E-1
adapt
[OM] Re: A question about film preference
[OM] using T-32 for studio flash...
[OM] Re: using T-32 for studio flash...
[OM] Re: using T-32 for studio flash...
[OM] Re: using T-32 for studio flash...
[OM] Re: using T-32 for studio flash...
[OM] Re: using T-32 for studio flash...
[OM] Introduction
[OM] Re: Helmet Newton Dies in Car Crash...
[OM] Re: Deep Regrets... OM System for sale!
[OM] Which slide film?
[OM] Re: Which slide film?
[OM] Re: Which slide film?
[OM] Helmut
[OM] Re: Introduction
[OM] Re: A question about film preference
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:55:31 -0700
From: "Gordon J. Ross" <gordross@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: Deep Regrets... OM System for sale!
Hi Adam:
I don't know you and I am new to the list, so this is not advice, but a
strong suggestion--
Take out your favorite camera body and one lens and keep them, it isn't
going to take that much from the price and , when you regret it later,
and
you will, the sting won't be as bad.
Personally, my call backs would be- my first camera a black Nikk*rmat
manual
with a fast 50, I still remember vividly the feeling of the first click
of
the shutter- magic. My first rangefinder, a L*ica IIIG with Summicr*n
50 -(really accentuated years later when I found an old roll from it and
had
it developed, ouch- it had financed my Nik*n F2SB which isn't on the
regret
list. PS a dentist bought it from me and had it stripped and gold
plated-doubley sad.) continuing- my Z*iss Distag*n 25mm lens but I would
need a mount as I disliked the C*ntax bodies.
Good luck to you, in the end, as so well demonstrated in the film Dead
Poets
Society- all there will be left is the photographs-Carpe Deim boys Carpe
Deim
Gord
.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Moose" <olymoose@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 4:04 PM
Subject: [OM] Re: Deep Regrets... OM System for sale!
>
> Adam, you are a young man and a damn fine photographer with the talent
> that could lead to a living from it. You gotta go with the tools that
> let you best exercise your talent. I'm glad Oly was a part of your
> start, if only because it meant I got to watch!
>
> Moose
>
> boldbolty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> >This is a sad day for me... maybe someone will talk me out of it!
> >I have been buying a bit of Ca*on gear lately and have decided
because it
> >suits my work flow better to sell the Olympus gear so it will help
fund
> >buying a Ca*on digital SLR body.
> >
> >For those not familiar with my work, check out
> >http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGallByMember.asp?mem=22419
> >to get an idea of the quality of images I have been able to get from
this
> >kit!
> >
> Don't tell anybody, but it was you who made all those splendid images,
> the equipment just let you express yourself.
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:04:10 -0700
From: "Gordon J. Ross" <gordross@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: On topic - Book recommendation,
Bill and Jim:
Jim sais
--"-When I saw the title of your course (Demystifying the
Box) I had to think what fun George Carlin could have with that."
I thought Bill was taking on Gloria Steiham, you could also use 'The
Zuiko
Monologues'
Great stuff Bill, I learned that too and do it in my practice, write it
down
and tell somebody, as clever beings we can rationalize anything but its
harder with evidence and witnesses. I did notice that you have
everything
done by July, you're stretching 'the seventh day' aren't you?
Gord
-- Original Message -----
From: "James N. McBride" <jnmcbr@xxxxxxx>
To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 4:39 PM
Subject: [OM] Re: On topic - Book recommendation, goals and other
ramblings - long
>
> Bill,
>
> Your goals are ambitious to say the least. They sound fulfilling and
of
> benefit to others too. When I saw the title of your course
(Demystifying
the
> Box) I had to think what fun George Carlin could have with that. The
> two-hour program will need some dynamic participative segments to keep
the
> interest high for that long. Some that quickly come to mind would be a
> little too risque. Like you could do something naughty to commemorate
Helmet
> Newton. Naaaaaaa.
>
> /jim
>
> <<snip
>
> 3) Teach a class in photography. My class, "Demystifying the Box, an
> introduction to how a camera works", begins on February 5th and runs 5
> consecutive
> Thursdays through March 4th. I have 5 students and they are people
who
own
> cameras and are who don't understand the basics. It is to be an
informal
> lecture
> and discussion with 4 class assignments (shoot a roll on film with
specific
> objectives assigned).
> 4) Present a program to the Houston Photographic Society at their
monthly
> meeting. My presentation will occur on February 10th and will deal
with
> getting
> your photography to the next level and beyond. This 2 hour program
will
> included a 45 minute video, a short lecture and some visioning
exercises.
>
>
> <<snip
>
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:11:48 -0700
From: "Gordon J. Ross" <gordross@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: Great Small Oly Film Cameras
Hi Thomas:
Thomas said-
"There is hope, though....I saw Gordon list two 200/4.0 :)"
Yes, at the moment...
..........a little Duck Tape and they make fine binoculars,
I've been getting it wrong, I have been buying multiples comparing them
and
just keeping the best and selling the other, I am sorry, I just didn't
know.
Gord
PS. " dremelling off the silver-nose" -- Isn't the aluminum underneath
still
silvery?
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:29:39 -0700
From: "Gordon J. Ross" <gordross@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: Old and in the way
Walt:
Fathering a son with the Oly ghost- there is a kid I don't want to meet.
I think it was Dangerfield who said, "When I was born I was so ugly, the
doctor slapped my mother."
PS. I have been yanking at your chain a few times expecting to get
Walted
on, I hope we are still talking. If not I've wasted my money on this
flack
jacket.
Gord
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walt Wayman" <hiwayman@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 8:21 AM
Subject: [OM] Re: Old and in the way
>
> I am taking some consolation in the fact that in my old stuff
> there was no instruction sheet for an E-1 kit. Funny how things
> go round and round if you hang around and watch. E-1 was the
> first do-it-yourself slide process, and now E-1 is the latest
> Olympus digital wonder. It should only last half as long and work
> so well.
>
> As for the gear, no need to ask. I think many of you know I'm a
> black hole for Oly gear. It comes in and doesn't go back out.
> However, my wife has a long-standing and well-maintained
> relationship with that auction site, so it would not surprise me
> that before the ink is dry on my death certificate, my gear will
> begin appearing.
>
> I'm thinking about requiring, as one of several carefully
> premeditated last wishes, that she drop a pinch of my ashes in
> each box she ships. If I can't take the gear with me, then I can
> go with the gear.
>
> Walt, who may someday be recalled as father, son, and Oly ghost.
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> A human being has a natural desire to have more of a good thing
> than he needs. -- Mark Twain (defining the cause of Zuikoholism a
> century ago)
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: NSURIT@xxxxxxx
> Reply-To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 04:49:09 EST
>
> >
> >In a message dated 1/24/2004 3:05:14 AM Central Standard Time,
> >gordross@xxxxxxx writes:
> >>I would take it as a huge sign of respect that not one member
> >>has even asked if they can have your >>OM stuff yet.
>
> >Yes, it is respect. I'm sure they have all asked off list.
> {8^)))) Bill Barber
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:43:56 +1030
From: Andrew L Wendelborn <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: regrets: Zuiko 200/4
At 3:23 AM +0100 2004.01.25, Thomas Heide Clausen wrote:
>wut'a wrong with the 200/4? I get excellent results with mine....
>
>As for small and light in the 200mm area, nothing beats the 200/5.
I agree. Had my 200/5 on a bellows yesterday to get close to somewhere I
feared to tread (a nest of seriously unfriendly inch-ants, one of the
delights
of an Australian backyard :-) ).
Yes a very nice lens.
> Excellent lens, quite sharpp. Incidentially I have two (N and BN) --
who said zuikoholic...? :)
>
THREE 200mm Zuikos -- do they breed in France?
regards
Andrew
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Subject: [OM] A question about film preference
From: Bob_Benson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:26:46 -0600
I have lurked for three months now, and have greatly enjoyed
the camraderie and knowledge exchange.
I've learned a lot.
My specific question to you'all.
Having been a zuikoholic since 1971, and very active then, I got busy
with other things
and stopped about 1988, and am just back now for more serious
stuff.
However, I find myself confused about what's happened to film choices
since
then.
So, my question (and I'm sorry if I'm covering ground already covered
before
I joined the list ........)
1. Assuming my objective is mainly landscape and 20x30 prints ....
(color)
2. And assuming I hadn't been happy about Cibachrome et al prints
before
1985 ....
(too garish for my tastes)
3. What film would be your preference?
Thanks !
Bob Benson
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From: NSURIT@xxxxxxx
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:26:38 EST
Subject: [OM] Re: On topic - Book recommendation, goals and other
ramblings - l
In a message dated 1/24/2004 9:05:33 PM Central Standard Time,
gordross@xxxxxxx writes:
I did notice that you have everything
done by July, you're stretching 'the seventh day' aren't you?
I didn't share the entire list and the Brazos Bend project really is to
be
the major one for the year. I have a couple of ideas for written work
that
would include photographs. Ultimately I would like to generate some
money from my
photography without taking pictures of weddings and babies. Each of
those
are very honorable persuits in which I have no interest. I am well paid
for
what I do and if I want to work as hard as folks who do weddings and
babies are
required to work, I'll just keep doing what I do for a living and not
retire.
My photography feeds my soul and the money is only an acknowledgement
that
others find value and joy in it. Bill Barber
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From: NSURIT@xxxxxxx
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:32:55 EST
Subject: [OM] Re: A question about film preference
In a message dated 1/24/2004 10:24:10 PM Central Standard Time,
Bob_Benson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
1. Assuming my objective is mainly landscape and 20x30 prints ....
(color)
2. And assuming I hadn't been happy about Cibachrome et al prints
before
1985 ....
(too garish for my tastes)
3. What film would be your preference?
1) A real good tripod and Fuji Velvia 100 or a real good tripod and a
4X5
field camera.
2) Same answer
3) Same answer
In other words, I'd at least give a couple of rolls of Velvia a try to
see if
it works for me. Bill Barber
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 16:52:02 +1100
From: Philip Rhoades <pri@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: Another mod to digest mode?
Andrew,
I wasn't clear enough - I mean _in digest mode_, the name should follow
Subject in the list of subjects at the _beginning_ of the mail body.
These are very big digest mails and it is not viable to have to scan
the list of subject headings at the top and then scroll down to see who
wrote the item. That defeats (part of) the purpose having digest mode.
Regards,
Phil.
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 20:36:16 +1100
> From: andrew fildes <afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [OM] Re: Another mod to digest mode?
>
> Phil - I'm using Eudora and I get the poster's name on my main 'In'
> list and you come up on the 'From' line header in your post thus -
> Philip Rhoades <pri@xxxxxxxxxx>
> I wouldn't want it a third time in the subject line :) Is this a
> feature of one's email program perchance (please don't start another
> interminable discussion about which one is best!)
> AndrewF
>
>
>
> >Hi people,
> >
> >Although the new list is a great improvement, there is still one
> thing
> >that it lacks compared to other lists - the name of the poster in
> >brackets after the Subject in the header - is this possible?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Phil.
> >--
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> >
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Sydney NSW 2001
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Mobile: +61:0411-185-652
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 23:45:03 -0700
From: "Gordon J. Ross" <gordross@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: On topic - Book recommendation,
Hi Bill:
I understand what you are telling me for sure, I can identify with it a
bit,
we are at the top of our careers, challenge and desperation are things
of
the past. The hard part of what I am going to tell you is that those old
challenges and desperation made you. One of the things we cannot do is
fake
it, all 'professions' demand that we pay our dues, it is the challenge
that
brings out the 'muse'. Comfortable people do comfortable things, art
seldom
surfaces under such comfy conditions. Make your photographs feed our
souls,
and you will have the career change you seek. I wish you every success
in
that endeavour.
Gord
----- Original Message -----
From: <NSURIT@xxxxxxx>
To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 10:26 PM
Subject: [OM] Re: On topic - Book recommendation, goals and other
ramblings - long
>
> In a message dated 1/24/2004 9:05:33 PM Central Standard Time,
> gordross@xxxxxxx writes:
> I did notice that you have everything
> done by July, you're stretching 'the seventh day' aren't you?
> I didn't share the entire list and the Brazos Bend project really is
to be
> the major one for the year. I have a couple of ideas for written work
that
> would include photographs. Ultimately I would like to generate some
money
from my
> photography without taking pictures of weddings and babies. Each of
those
> are very honorable persuits in which I have no interest. I am well
paid
for
> what I do and if I want to work as hard as folks who do weddings and
babies are
> required to work, I'll just keep doing what I do for a living and not
retire.
> My photography feeds my soul and the money is only an acknowledgement
that
> others find value and joy in it. Bill Barber
>
>
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 23:58:59 -0800
Subject: [OM] Re: A question about film preference
From: Jim Brokaw <jbrokaw@xxxxxxxxxxx>
on 1/24/04 8:26 PM, Bob_Benson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx at
Bob_Benson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> So, my question (and I'm sorry if I'm covering ground already covered
> before
> I joined the list ........)
>
> 1. Assuming my objective is mainly landscape and 20x30 prints ....
> (color)
> 2. And assuming I hadn't been happy about Cibachrome et al prints
before
> 1985 ....
> (too garish for my tastes)
> 3. What film would be your preference?
>
> Thanks !
>
> Bob Benson
Hi Bob - Well, its been a while... I always loved the look of Kodachrome
II,
but that's been gone a while also.
Before you can start to consider film, you need to decide what your
'work
flow' is going to be. If you were long ago printing slides onto
Cibachrome,
you have many more choices now.
The first great divide is 'chemical' or digital? However, this is not
always
a clear binary choice as there are many places along the way where you
can
branch from one to the other.
Once you go into the digital realm, the constraints you used to face
(using
slide film and then making Cibachromes from the slides) are greatly
eased.
Where color negative film once offered the only way to adjust colors
post-exposure, you can now digitize slides and then adjust them the same
way
you would once 'dial in' the filtration on a color print.
I have a nice film scanner, so my workflow is to shoot the film, then
scan
the images (slides or negatives) into the computer where I hope,
someday, to
learn how to get them tweaked to perfection, then output on nice quality
paper with a high-resolution inkjet printer.
You could choose to shoot film and have large-format prints made from
your
negatives, but in many cases now the printed images are being made from
scans which are 'laser-imaged' onto regular color photo paper then
developed
in chemicals... I think this is what the 'Crystal Archive' process
outputs.
Many have reported that this produces even better images than a
traditional
'all analog' chemical process would.
For film choices, some are 'warmer' or 'cooler' and some have greater or
lesser latitude. To my eye there is a 'Fuji' look and a 'Kodak' look...
I
don't have much experience with Agfa or Konica color films. But since
you
can adjust the colors so much and also the contrast and
shadow/highlights
can be tuned in the computer, the choice is much more flexible.
So in my usual fashion I write a lot but haven't really answered your
question...
I shoot a lot of Fuji Sensia 100 (because its cheap) and some Fuji 200
and
400 (Realia? Super HQ? something like that...). Also some Kodak 200 and
Kodak 400. Processing by Costco, just for negatives and 4x6 proof
prints. If
I ever take an image that's worth it I'll scan the negative and go from
there... still learning that end. I have worked a bit with Kodak Elite
Chrome 200... I do have some E100VS which I'm going to try mainly
because I
got 5 free rolls with a coupon/rebate...
Way back when I shot mostly Kodachrome II, then when that went away
Kodachrome 25 and Kodachrome 64, but getting Kodachrome processed is a
hassle anymore (you pretty much have to mail it away) so I haven't used
it
in several years. I still like those Kodachrome colors though...
--
Jim Brokaw
OM-'s of all sorts, and no OM-oney...
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From: christian <fischerchristian@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: CameraQuest's OM to EOS adapter + more on E-1 adapter
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:56:36 +0100
Yes, OM mount design appears exceptional with lock/unlock and DOF levers
on the lens... anyway to me and my lack of experience with other mount.
The lock/unlock lever allows you to leave the adapter on the EOS body.
I expect n*kon mount don't allow that.
Are there other mount like OM one's ? even on MF mount ? but OT...
How great were the designers in the OM team !
Christian
Le Samedi 24 Janvier 2004 21:47, vous avez écrit :
> On Jan 24, 2004, at 9:10 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
> > Stephen Gandy of CameraQuest advises me that his OM to EOS adapter
is
> > the same adapter as sold by Kindai. So, whatever merits and
demerits
> > have been noted by CH Ling will also apply.
> >
> > However, for US purchasers at least, his $175 price is now cheaper
than
> > Kindai's due to the declining value of the dollar relative to the
Yen
> > (and just about every other currency). I hope he is able to hold
this
> > price for awhile longer.
>
> Very nice information. Gandy has a nice page for it:
> http://www.cameraquest.com/frames/4saleReos.htm
>
> He points out a nice advantage with OM lenses because of the stop down
> preview button_on the lens. It makes it very easy to focus wide open
> and then to stop down to meter and take the shot.
>
> Winsor
> Long Beach, California
> USA
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:36:16 -0500
From: Skip Williams <om2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: A question about film preference
I'd only shoot transparancies myself. Fuji Velvia, Provia, or Astia,
depending on your need for saturation and intense greens. Grain is
similar, with Velvia getting the nod.
I've gien up on Kodachrome 64, as I don't like the grain structure and
red-bias vs. the Fuji films. Astia, with it's natural, even tones, is
definitely my favorite.
With careful technique, acceptable 20x30 prints are easily within reach.
That means mirror lockup or self-timer, medium apertures, good lenses,
and a good heavy tripod/support.
Skip
>
>Subject: [OM] A question about film preference
> From: Bob_Benson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:26:46 -0600
> To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
>
>I have lurked for three months now, and have greatly enjoyed
>the camraderie and knowledge exchange.
>I've learned a lot.
>
>My specific question to you'all.
>
>Having been a zuikoholic since 1971, and very active then, I got busy
>with other things
>and stopped about 1988, and am just back now for more serious
>stuff.
>
>However, I find myself confused about what's happened to film choices
>since
>then.
>
>So, my question (and I'm sorry if I'm covering ground already covered
>before
>I joined the list ........)
>
>1. Assuming my objective is mainly landscape and 20x30 prints ....
>(color)
>2. And assuming I hadn't been happy about Cibachrome et al prints
before
>1985 ....
> (too garish for my tastes)
>3. What film would be your preference?
>
>Thanks !
>
>Bob Benson
>
>
>
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From: "james olson" <james_olson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] using T-32 for studio flash...
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:02:01 -0800
I am looking to set up a basic studio lighting set up. I have a BG-2
and
T-32, so it could me mounted on a tripod or light stand to use as a main
flash. I would like to set it up with a soft box or bounced into an
umbrella.
Since I don't have a long cord currently to use it, has anyone on the
list
used a T-32 for a studio flash with a 5m cord, or something similar?
(Did
Olympus make an adapter so that I can use the flash with a standard PC
cord?
Is the fact that the power can't be adjusted a big problem? Any ideas
would
be appreciated.
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:27:50 -0500
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: using T-32 for studio flash...
james olson wrote:
>
> I am looking to set up a basic studio lighting set up. I have a BG-2
and
> T-32, so it could me mounted on a tripod or light stand to use as a
main
> flash. I would like to set it up with a soft box or bounced into an
> umbrella.
>
> Since I don't have a long cord currently to use it, has anyone on the
list
> used a T-32 for a studio flash with a 5m cord, or something similar?
(Did
> Olympus make an adapter so that I can use the flash with a standard PC
cord?
If you want to maintain the rapid charge capability of the BG-2 (and
utilize it's tripod mount) you will require a TTL cord to fire it since
there's no way to reach the hotshoe contact on the bottom of the flash
once it's mounted on the BG-2.
If you take the BG-2 out of the equation you can use a "PC to hotshoe
adapter" to both mount the flash on a tripod or light stand and fire it
with a PC cable. Inexpensive PC to hotshoe adapters can be purchased at
camera stores for $10-15. It's a small plastic and metal block with a
1/4-20 tripod thread on the bottom, a PC connector or cable on the side
and a hotshoe on top. Be careful not to confuse this adapter with its
reverse... a "hotshoe to PC adapter". Not what you want.
Umbrellas are far cheaper than softboxes. Umbrella holders can be had
for about $25. These are designed to attach to a stud atop a light
stand and may require a bit of ingenuity to attach to a tripod depending
upon what kind of hardware comes with the umbrella holder. Remember that
you can bouce off the inside of the umbrella or fire through it. Each
method will render its own effect.
Another, perhaps less expensive solution, is a large piece of thin white
cloth stretched across a frame of 1/2" PVC pipe which could also
incorporate its own floor stand. See
<http://www.lightingmagic.com/difpanel.htm> for ideas.
>
> Is the fact that the power can't be adjusted a big problem? Any ideas
would
> be appreciated.
>
T-32's in manual mode do have a power adjustment. They can be set for
either full or 1/4 power... guide numbers 32 and 16 in meters and 104
and 52 in feet. Look carefully at the manual positions on your
calculator panel.
This is not a wide range of adjustment but it's not really necessary.
Just as you can zoom with your feet with a prime lens you can zoom the
flash by moving it closer or farther away. Since the distances are
short you don't have to move it very far to change the exposure by a
stop.
My strongest suggestion is to buy a flash meter when working with manual
flash. I bought a Sekonic L-358 a few months ago and now wish I'd
bought a flash meter 30 years ago. Without a flash meter you may be
best to stick with TTL. Once you introduce a diffuser between the flash
and subject you will not be able to use the flash guide number to
compute manual exposure. You might also want to add another diffused
flash near the camera as a fill light.
I have been experimenting with something similar using four T-32's. I
have a small crossbar atop each of two lightstands with a T-32 mounted
on each end of the crossbar and firing into an umbrella. The first
flash is kicked off by a 5 meter TTL cable. The other three are fired
by optical slaves which also serve at the hotshoe attachments to the
crossbar. These low cost slaves can be had at camera stores for about
$15 each.
Chuck Norcutt
Woburn, Massachusetts, USA
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From: "Piers Hemy" <piers@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: using T-32 for studio flash...
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:13:06 -0000
... except by connecting a normal plain vanilla flash cord to the
standard
PC cord which is helpfully stowed in the base of the BG2.
Piers
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Sent: 25 January 2004 19:28
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Subject: [OM] Re: using T-32 for studio flash...
--snip
there's no way to reach the hotshoe contact on the bottom of the flash
once
it's mounted on the BG-2.
-- snip
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:35:28 -0500
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: using T-32 for studio flash...
Well, waddya' know! Thanks, Piers. I've had a BG-2 for several years
and obviously never paid a bit of attention to the PC cord on the
bottom.
Chuck Norcutt
Piers Hemy wrote:
> ... except by connecting a normal plain vanilla flash cord to the
standard
> PC cord which is helpfully stowed in the base of the BG2.
>
> Piers
>
> -----Original Message-----
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Behalf
> Of Chuck Norcutt
> Sent: 25 January 2004 19:28
> To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx; james_olson@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [OM] Re: using T-32 for studio flash...
>
> --snip
>
> there's no way to reach the hotshoe contact on the bottom of the flash
once
> it's mounted on the BG-2.
>
> -- snip
>
>
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 16:20:53 -0500
From: Skip Williams <om2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: using T-32 for studio flash...
I used three T-32's and a single T-20 for quite a while in an all TTL
studio setup.
Two of the T-32's were mounted in one umbrella with a Quantum battery as
the main light.
The other T-32 was in another umbrella as the fill.
The T-20 was used as the background light and had some diffusing
material over it.
All the flahes were connected by TTL cords and controlled by an OM4t.
The setup worked very nicely but there were a lot of cords and
connectors, probably $150 worth of TTL goodies, at least.
If I was to do it again, I'd spring for "real" studio monolights and use
my flashmeter. The big advantage of using studio lights is that they
have: 1. modeling lights, which help to determine the lighting angles,
and 2. the ability to dial the power up/down to get exactly what you
want.
Skip
>
>Subject: [OM] using T-32 for studio flash...
> From: "james olson" <james_olson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:02:01 -0800
> To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>I am looking to set up a basic studio lighting set up. I have a BG-2
and
>T-32, so it could me mounted on a tripod or light stand to use as a
main
>flash. I would like to set it up with a soft box or bounced into an
>umbrella.
>
>Since I don't have a long cord currently to use it, has anyone on the
list
>used a T-32 for a studio flash with a 5m cord, or something similar?
(Did
>Olympus make an adapter so that I can use the flash with a standard PC
cord?
>
>Is the fact that the power can't be adjusted a big problem? Any ideas
would
>be appreciated.
>
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 16:43:31 -0500
From: "Walt Wayman" <hiwayman@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: using T-32 for studio flash...
The T45 also has a PC cord. I've used mine on several occasions
with the MF gear. With the swiveling and tilting head and the
higher power, it works very well with an umbrella, too.
Walt
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---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:35:28 -0500
>Well, waddya' know! Thanks, Piers. I've had a BG-2 for several
>years and obviously never paid a bit of attention to the PC cord
>on the bottom.
>
>Chuck Norcutt
>
>Piers Hemy wrote:
>> ... except by connecting a normal plain vanilla flash cord to
>> the standard PC cord which is helpfully stowed in the base of
>> the BG2.
>>
>> Piers
------------------------------
From: "Paul Krone" <paulkrone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Introduction
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:23:17 -0500
Hello,
Just wanted to say hello to the list subscribers. After a long hiatus
from
film photography I have returned.
Went looking for a camera system that would allow me to be in control
and
found very little in the 35mm realm. Studied real hard on the FM3a
until I
come to the realization that as good as this camera is, it does not even
come close to the OM system.
Went and dug out my OM-4T that I last put away in 1993 and started to
get
the feel again. after a few dry fires it jammed up on me - guess it
needs a
CLA.
I only have a 35/2.0 left from my collection and so I am on the happy
hunt
to resupply myself with primes from 24mm to 100mm. Boy what I wouldn't
give
to have all my lenses and bodies back. Was sad to learn the OM has been
discountinued, but the system is so good I will not be deterred.
Anyway - hello!
Paul Krone
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From: "John Hermanson" <omtech@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: Helmet Newton Dies in Car Crash...
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:36:01 -0500
Our local paper ran an obit showing him holding what I think is a Stylus
Epic.
----------------------------------------------------
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----- Original Message -----
From: <omboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 4:06 AM
Subject: [OM] Helmet Newton Dies in Car Crash...
> Form http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS.HTM
>
> Helmet Newton Dies in Car Crash
> 00:17 ET - At 83, the famed fashion photograher lost control of his
> Cadillac after leaving the Chateau Marmont Hotel. It crashed into the
> wall on the other side of the street and he died shortly after at
> Cedars-Sinai Medical Center.
>
> Chris Lee
> Hong Kong
>
>
>
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Subject: [OM] Re: Introduction
From: Donald MacDonald <d1956m198d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 22:36:45 -0000
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:23:17 -0500, Paul Krone <paulkrone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
after a few dry fires it jammed up on me - guess it
> needs a
> CLA.
>
Welcome, Paul.
Better try that OM4Ti with fresh batteries first; it maybe just ran out
of
juice in storage. Not having an 'off' switch means there is constant
drain.
Worth a try initially.
D.
--
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www.skelpitheid.com
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From: "John Hermanson" <omtech@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: Deep Regrets... OM System for sale!
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:49:29 -0500
Yes, Adam, you are very talented. the camera is just a tool and you
have to
do what's right for you.
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From: "Moose" <olymoose@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 6:04 PM
Subject: [OM] Re: Deep Regrets... OM System for sale!
>
> Adam, you are a young man and a damn fine photographer with the talent
> that could lead to a living from it. You gotta go with the tools that
> let you best exercise your talent. I'm glad Oly was a part of your
> start, if only because it meant I got to watch!
>
> Moose
>
> boldbolty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> >This is a sad day for me... maybe someone will talk me out of it!
> >I have been buying a bit of Ca*on gear lately and have decided
because it
> >suits my work flow better to sell the Olympus gear so it will help
fund
> >buying a Ca*on digital SLR body.
> >
> >For those not familiar with my work, check out
> >http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGallByMember.asp?mem=22419
> >to get an idea of the quality of images I have been able to get from
this
> >kit!
> >
> Don't tell anybody, but it was you who made all those splendid images,
> the equipment just let you express yourself.
>
>
>
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From: "Lars Bundesen" <lars.bundesen@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Which slide film?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2083 00:00:53 +0100
Hi,
I am going to South Africa for a month in two weeks. I am going to take
slides for the most part. I have used Kodak Elite films earlier (100
ISO),
but I wonder if the new Fuji Velvia 100 (is it called that or is it
Provia
100 F?) might be a better film?
I know I should not use a film for such a trip I haven't tried, but I
have
used Velvia earlier with good results, it was just too slow if there was
not
a lot of light.
My trip is going to include Cape Town, Lesotho and the east coast south
of
Durban, I think. Probably also some safari trip.
By the way, is a Mju II (Stylus II) good enough for shooting slides? (I
am
taking OM equipment, of course, but the Mju would be nice to have for
slides, too.)
Lars
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 19:08:25 -0500
From: Skip Williams <om2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: Which slide film?
Again as in a previous post yesterday, I suggest that you try Astia.
It's very nicely balanced for all types of subjects, has a moderate
contrast, renders skin tones well, and has exceedingly fine grain. It
doesn't push well though.
Velvia is a little too punchy for me.
Suggest you take some 400-speed as an alternative.
The Stylus is fine for slides, but you can't fit a polarizer on it for
senics.
Skip
>
>Subject: [OM] Which slide film?
> From: "Lars Bundesen" <lars.bundesen@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2083 00:00:53 +0100
> To: "Olympus@xxxxxxxxxx" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I am going to South Africa for a month in two weeks. I am going to take
>slides for the most part. I have used Kodak Elite films earlier (100
ISO),
>but I wonder if the new Fuji Velvia 100 (is it called that or is it
Provia
>100 F?) might be a better film?
>
>I know I should not use a film for such a trip I haven't tried, but I
have
>used Velvia earlier with good results, it was just too slow if there
was not
>a lot of light.
>
>My trip is going to include Cape Town, Lesotho and the east coast south
of
>Durban, I think. Probably also some safari trip.
>
>By the way, is a Mju II (Stylus II) good enough for shooting slides? (I
am
>taking OM equipment, of course, but the Mju would be nice to have for
>slides, too.)
>
>Lars
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 16:06:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Gary Edwards <zuiko_warrior@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: Which slide film?
My default chrome is Provia 100F. But, you really should use a stock
that you are VERY comfortable with on a once-in-a-lifetime trip.
My opinion,
Gary
Gary Edwards
www.peopleplacesflight.com
Lars Bundesen <lars.bundesen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
I am going to South Africa for a month in two weeks. I am going to take
slides for the most part. I have used Kodak Elite films earlier (100
ISO),
but I wonder if the new Fuji Velvia 100 (is it called that or is it
Provia
100 F?) might be a better film?
I know I should not use a film for such a trip I haven't tried, but I
have
used Velvia earlier with good results, it was just too slow if there was
not
a lot of light.
My trip is going to include Cape Town, Lesotho and the east coast south
of
Durban, I think. Probably also some safari trip.
By the way, is a Mju II (Stylus II) good enough for shooting slides? (I
am
taking OM equipment, of course, but the Mju would be nice to have for
slides, too.)
Lars
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:12:07 -0700
Subject: [OM] Re: Which slide film?
From: Mark Kronquist <mak@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
My mother shoots Kodachrome in her Stylus all the time works fine.
Though if
you are worried shoot a test roll. If you have not been to Africa, the
colors are wonderful and naturally vibrant. I might suggest a more muted
pallet film Mark
------------------------------
From: Winsor Crosby <wincros@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Helmut
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:35:36 -0800
Am I the only one that cringes when someone mispells this photographers
name. Not Helmet. That is something worn on your head.
Winsor
Long Beach, California
USA
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:36:17 -0500
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: Introduction
And worth another try after that even if you think the batteries are
good. Searching the archives of this list will prove to you that
batteries (even supposedly fresh ones) are problem #1.
Welcome back to OM photography.
Chuck Norcutt
Woburn, Massachusetss, USA
Donald MacDonald wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:23:17 -0500, Paul Krone
<paulkrone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>
> after a few dry fires it jammed up on me - guess it
>
>>needs a
>>CLA.
>>
>
>
> Welcome, Paul.
>
> Better try that OM4Ti with fresh batteries first; it maybe just ran
out of
> juice in storage. Not having an 'off' switch means there is constant
drain.
>
> Worth a try initially.
>
> D.
>
------------------------------
From: Winsor Crosby <wincros@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [OM] Re: A question about film preference
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:41:22 -0800
On Jan 25, 2004, at 9:36 AM, Skip Williams wrote:
>
> I'd only shoot transparancies myself. Fuji Velvia, Provia, or Astia,
> depending on your need for saturation and intense greens. Grain is
> similar, with Velvia getting the nod.
>
End use might be important too. For projection Velvia stands up well
with lots of light being pumped through it with good color, sharpness,
contrast and fine grain. I like Provia for scanning because of its
lower contrast, fine grain and its slight softness can be compensated
for, as can its tendency to magenta on my set up.
Winsor
Long Beach, California
USA
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