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Subject: [OT]Re:red wine and heart disease [OM] Re: olympus-digest V2 #4424
From: "Julian Davies" <julian_davies@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 03:16:51 -0000
Getting double blind on Claret I can handle! :-)

Julian

A model of moderation....
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Scharf" <scharfsj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 1:55 AM
Subject: [OM] Re: olympus-digest V2 #4424


> >
> >Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:40:35 -0000
> >From: "Julian Davies" <julian_davies@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: Re: [OM] OT red wine and heart disease
> >
> >AFAIK the study to prove this was conducted in France and proved that
only
> >claret was good in this respect. This is now the "accepted wisdom" in
France
> >I wonder who funded it....:-)
> >
> >UK "accepted wisdom" (peddled slightly by doctors)is that a little
alcohol
> >of any type is beneficial simply for the relaxation factor, no mysterious
> >chemical wonders.
> >
> >Julian
> >
> >Who has only anecdotal knowledge in this area, but is amazed by how many
> >French doctors formally recognise ailments which don't exist but for
which
> >there is an expensive French "cure" - cellulite being the most famous.
> With all due respect to Moose, there have been the double-blinded
> placebo-control based tests done. Red wine has been shown to be
> beneficial. The reason is likely two-fold...black or dark grapes have
> a lot of antioxidant power, and it has been well known for a while
> now that a small amount of alcohol also has a protective effect on
> risk for MI (myocardial infarction). Drinking grape juice is
> beneficial, as well as just consuming a small amt. of alcohol. So you
> could very likely get the same benefit from drinking  grape juice and
> small amt. of alcohol rather than red wine. But the studies all show
> that moderation is (like everything else in life, right?) is the key.
> Basically one (that's one, folks) glass of red wine per day has been
> shown to beneficial, not two or three. The other foods that have been
> shown to very beneficial are nuts, esp. walnuts, and olive oil. And
> chocolate. But not milk chocolate (which is mostly cream and sugar),
> but the very dark, high percentage bittersweet chocolate.
>
> -Stephen.
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