I was hesitant to name any names because of this, but I decided to put on
the mud goggles and let it fly. :-0 The reason I went ahead was to see if
anyone else had good or bad experiences with the seller. The purpose is
not to throw mud at the guy but to see if there is a pattern. I don't
expect anyone to draw conclusions based on one transaction but if there
is a history of bad deals it would be useful to know. I invited anyone
with something positive to say to post as well. I am being as diplomatic
as I can be here considering it is my money on the line.
Since I am still trying to salvage this deal it is not even in my
best interest to post anything about it but thought it could be helpful.
I am on another mailing list that deals with a marque of antique cars
that are not that popular, (another hobby I can't really afford) and our
sources of parts and vendors is limited (sound familiar?) On this list we
openly share information and it has helped many list members avoid being
taken advantage of. The people who deal honestly have nothing to hide and
the good vendors are rewarded with an increase in business.
Frank
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:27:20 -0800 Kelton Rhoads <krho@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
writes:
> >><< It was advertised as LN but it is more like EX cosmetically with
> a
> >>bad meter . . . I also bought the f280 flash from same seller that
> was
> >>advertised as LN but is more like Bargain >>
> >
> >Sorry to hear about your grade inflation problems. You ought to
> post the
> >name of that seller here.
>
> I agree, but Frank should be prepared for mail from a handful of
> list
> members urging him not to reveal the name. Several weeks back I
> aired the
> name of a seller giving me problems and got some negative off-list
> feedback from a few list members for it. I felt I was taking on
> personal
> risk for the benefit of the list (giving advance warning to other
> potential purchasers), but that got spun by a few people as my
> jumping to
> conclusions and damaging an innocent seller's record. Posting the
> names
> of deadbeat sellers is the right thing to do, but be prepared for a
> reaction from a small minority of list members if it isn't done
> right.
> And that was where I think I went wrong weeks ago, because, given
> the
> nature of e-communications, I've learned you can't summarize and
> condense
> as you might if you were talking to your neighbor. If you simply
> say,
> "Beware of so-and-so," your communication may be interpreted as
> unjust, a
> "judgment without a trial." I had summarized, because I didn't feel
> like
> airing all the dirty laundry. That was a mistake. (In fact, eBay
> also
> discourages summaries, and encourages negative feedback to be based
> strictly on the facts). In the future, when I issue a seller
> warning,
> I'll provide detail so people can make up their own minds. And, I'll
> skip
> the judgment calls altogether. I've come to believe that, although
> shared
> summary judgments are efficient and useful in many instances, they
> are
> not well-suited to virtual communities. In any case, the rules of
> politics still apply: "You can't throw mud without getting hit by
> mud
> yourself." (Which is why I think the feedback on eBay is such a
> crock--why give negative feedback when it will only damage your own
> record in a tit-for-tat retaliation? What's to stop a person with a
> lot
> of negative feedback from re-emerging under a different name? If you
> are
> honest with your side of the story, what constrains your antagonist
> to be
> honest as well? Do we really believe that everybody is equally
> honest?)
> OK, I'm starting to go seriously OT here, but let me take a moment
> and
> issue a GOOD seller notice. There's a guy on eBay named James
> Timmons
> (jktphd) who is an outstanding, honest seller of OM equipment. I
> purchased several items from him, most recently a 28/2 for $230 and
> it
> arrived in better-than-described, near-mint condition (REALLY
> near-mint,
> not pseudo near-mint, with apologies to those of you who don't think
>
> "mint" should be used as a descriptor). He also threw in free
> shipping
> and a free micro-fiber cloth. I say "What a guy," but draw your
> *own*
> conclusion from these facts. (And what a lens! Now I can see what
> y'all
> have been raving about.)
>
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