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Subject: Re: [OM] My thoughts om OM4 and/or suggestions, should an OM5 ever be...and n...
From: Pauls0627@xxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:20:22 EST
In a message dated 01/18/2000 8:58:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
fgernens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

> Thomas Heide Clausen wrote:
>  
>  > I've expressed some opinions before (like a few months ago) regarding my
>  > preferences for OM2s/p over the OM4.
>  
>  So did I, in an article I posted on 9 Jan 1999, "Be careful what you wish 
>  for...", which provoked a huge flamestorm. I have a mint OM-2SP, which 
>  I use all the time, and an OM-4 which I put up with as a fast-film body 
>  because of the higher top speed and faster motor drive rate.
>  
>  > However, it is almost impossible for me to figure out any
>  > convenient way of getting my fingers onto the camera, pressing the "spot"
>  > button, when otherwise using the winder.
>  
FWIW, I have no problems using the spot button with the winder attached. I do 
have fairly long fingers, though. I will say that it would be more convenient 
if the winder could be tripped using the shutter release button on the body. 
As a final comment, I will say that I don't use a winder much on the OM-4. 
With the kind of photography I usually use the OM-4 for, I tend to want to 
work slow, anyway, and the winder is just superfluous. I love the handling of 
the OM-4 with the Camera Grip 1 attached, especially with a small lens like 
the 50/1.8 or 28/2.8.

>  I can't solve it either. But see below.
>  
>  > Now, what do you people do in such situations? I may be wierd for 
> insisting on
>  > having a winder on a camera and at the same time insisting on not using
>  > automatic mode
>  
>  Not really. It is a reasonable choice for, say, bird or sports 
>  photography, and it should be yours to make, not the manufacturer's. 
>  Unfortunately, the designer of the OM-4 had a certain way of working 
>  in mind, and if it isn't yours, well, the nail that sticks up must be 
>  hammered down. This is, I guess, culturally acceptable in Japan, but 
>  unfortunately for Olympus most camera buyers (and probably most 
>  younger Japanese) don't think that way.
>  
>  The OM-4 does steer you in the direction of auto-only. You can 
>  lock in a suitable spot reading using MEMO - with the spot meter you 
>  can press SPOT, jigger MEMO and *then* take the first shot. It keeps 
>  the reading for an hour, until you bump CLEAR, or until the button 
>  cells run down from flashing the little red LED, whichever comes 
>  first. This gives you control over the aperture at a fixed EV. The 
>  exposure compensation dial is still unreachable, so the spot reading 
>  is basically for a mid-tone. In short, just lie back and be hammered.
>  
>  Some time ago someone pointed out the problems operating the shutter 
>  speed ring and long lenses, compared with the traditional dial on the 
>  top. In particular, it was mentioned that a third hand was needed (one 
>  to work the shutter release, one to support the lens, and one to work 
>  the speed ring) which is not needed on, say, a Nikon FM-2. This is a 
>  little unfair, because at least some long Zuikos have the aperture 
>  ring where you're already supporting the lens, while Nikon lenses all 
>  have the aperture ring at the camera end. So, for Nikons you still 
>  need a third hand when handholding a long lens. Furthermore, only
>  the OM-4 and Contaxes have true exposure locks - when provided,
>  Nikon etc. require you to hold the button down, and then you'd
>  need a fourth hand. Minolta and Pentax offer toggle locks, but
>  they have short timeouts.
>  
>  So that's why, despite its faults, the OM-4 is a relatively
>  good manual focus body for handholding long lenses. In auto mode,
>  you only need two hands, which is all I've got. In manual mode,
>  you can't set exposure while shooting, which is no worse than
>  traditional manual cameras.

I agree that with a long lens on an OM it can be difficult to work the 
shutter speed ring when handholding. From a practical viewpoint, If I am 
handholding a long lens in manual mode, I am not using the shutter speed ring 
very much. I am going to set it a a high speed (1/500 or faster, probably) 
and leave it there. If I need to use a slower speed then I need to get the 
tripod out anyway. The times I do have problems is when I mount the 100/2.  
That lens is not terribly long, but it is quite wide, and things get tight 
with the winder attached.

>  
>  Now, you could easily work in manual with any lens if you could work
>  both shutter speed and aperture using your right hand fingers on the
>  camera body. Minolta and Canon AF cameras, and I think one or two
>  recent Nikons, work this way. Some of them let you set exposure
>  compensation using the same thumb dial(s). And they have integral
>  motor drives and all-matte screens. Unfortunately, they have some other
>  user interface problems and only the most expensive models are much good.
>  
>  BTW, the OM-4's self-timer is impossible to get at with a Winder 2
>  and 300 f/4.5 both fitted. I don't think the winder was at all
>  thought out.

The winder predates the OM-4 by a few years, at least, I think.

>  
>  I hope this post wasn't too long. It isn't even seminal.

Not at all. Quite thought-provoking, actually.

Paul Schings

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